Plod Trans Action

I don’t remember when the legislation was debated, or even if it was debated, but I expect when the police asked for the powers to force website owners to reveal the identities of their subscribers it was done under the guise of identifying murderers, child abusers, drug traffickers, and terrorists.

But as always, once a government authority gets some power it wields it way beyond its original scope:

A transgender activist has won a High Court ruling ordering Mumsnet to reveal the identity of a user who allegedly abused her.

Stephanie Hayden tweeted an image of the court order, issued by Mr Justice William Davis, which requires the parenting website to name the anonymous user and provide their address, email and date of birth.

On the caption she wrote: ‘The days of defaming, abusing, and harassing transgender people on Mumsnet behind the cloak of anonymity are over.’

At the beginning it’s to thwart al-Qaeda’s plans to set off a nuke in the middle of London. Pretty soon it’s to prosecute people for upsetting transgenders online. Activist transgenders, that is:

Ms Hayden has been involved in several of online spats in recent years.

In 2018, she reported Father Ted creator Graham Linehan to the police for ‘transphobic harassment’ after he shared a tweet saying she was a ‘dangerous troll’.

Sitcom writer Mr Linehan was given a verbal harassment warning by West Yorkshire Police after transgender activist Miss Hayden reported him for referring to her by her previous names and pronouns on Twitter.

Wait, there’s more:

And in February, a mother was arrested in front of her children and locked up for seven hours after referring to Ms Hayden as a man online.

Three officers detained Kate Scottow at her home before quizzing her at a police station about an argument with an Ms Hayden on Twitter over so-called ‘deadnaming’.

The 38-year-old, from Hitchin, Hertfordshire, had her photograph, DNA and fingerprints taken.

Mrs Scottow denied harassing or defaming Miss Hayden and said she holds a ‘genuine and reasonable belief’ that a human ‘cannot practically speaking change sex’.

As well as potential police action, she is facing a £25,000 civil lawsuit over alleged defamation, use of private information and ‘harassment’.

She has also agreed to been made the subject of an injunction that bans her from writing about Miss Hayden online.

I expect that Hayden targeted Mumsnet – a forum mainly for mothers, i.e. women – quite deliberately in order to goad someone into saying something she could go running to the police with.

There are two things happening here. Firstly, the transgender movement – which the gay and bi-movements have decided to hitch their wagon to – are engaged in seeing just how far they can push the public until they no longer need to invent claims of being persecuted out of existence. Because if stuff like this keeps happening, that’s what’s going to happen. Secondly, the police and judges are involving themselves in a similar experiment. Pendulums swing in both directions, and when this one returns it’s going to take on the size and force of a wrecking ball.

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23 thoughts on “Plod Trans Action

  1. Wtf is a tranny doing at an online mother’s forum?

    Looking to make trouble. Bizarrely it’s the other person who the media are calling a troll.

  2. I’ve already set myself to accept that these trouble making weirdos are going to get killed sooner or later. And I would not lift a finger to prevent it. Things have gone much too far already and push-back, when it comes, is fully needed.

  3. Perhaps Mr Lud or one of our other learned friends can advise, but I don’t think any special anti-terror powers have been used here. Nothing more than the powers the court has had for centuries to compel potential witnesses to provide evidence. Note that the police appear to have nothing to do with this case.

    Mumsnet did not defend the action (because they would have lost and it would have cost money either way) so the default judgement was always going to go this way.

    Makes no difference to the troubling trouble making weirdo element, but this isn’t a result of Orwellian snooping or “anti-terror” legislation.

  4. I don’t think any special anti-terror powers have been used here. Nothing more than the powers the court has had for centuries to compel potential witnesses to provide evidence.

    You may be right, I don’t know. I know their demand to access the WhatsApp encryption was terror based, and I expect it won’t be long before those powers are used to arrest people for wrongthink.

  5. Teh Gayers have been doing ths for years: b and bs, bakers and so on. This just part and parcel of the kind of underhandtactics that these “activists” emp!oy, all out of the Gramsci Handbook.
    The fact that the authorities collude in it, shows how total their victory has become.

  6. Re the ‘hitching the wagon’ comment. In my experience observing the politics of this area it’s been the Trans activists who have hitched their wagon to the LGB wagon not the other way around. I’ve seen Trans activists attempt (sometimes successfully) cajole and bully organisers of LGB events and organisations to include the T or else face protests and boycotts because of ‘Transphobia’. There are tentative moves by some LGB activists to ‘drop the T’ as issues of gender are out of place in organisations that focus on matters pertaining to sexuality such as the ‘Drop The T’ campaign.

    Intolerant and bullying people exist in all walks of life and in all groups of people but I have found that the levels of intolerance and indeed entitlement is extremely high among trans activists.

  7. Re the ‘hitching the wagon’ comment. In my experience observing the politics of this area it’s been the Trans activists who have hitched their wagon to the LGB wagon not the other way around.

    Good point. Although the gay rights lot seem to spend an awful lot of time using the LGBT abbreviation, e.g. when talking about LGBT rights in Chechnya.

  8. until they no longer need to invent claims of being persecuted

    Hard to claim you are being persecuted when the law swings into action on your behalf to prevent other people from stating reality.

    the ‘Drop The T’ campaign.

    I’d not heard of this. Makes sense; as pointed out, sexuality is not gender. Also, it saves the gays from having to attend meetings with bearded mentalists in frocks.

  9. Don’t get this. Haven’t yet registered on Mumsnet. My Marks ‘n Sparks cotton sundress is in the wash. But if it’s like any other site, the most they’re going to get out of Mumsnet is a freemail address & maybe an IP number. Which may be used by several people. Odds on, the freemail address will be on one of the big US tech giants where the 1st Amendment reigns supreme & they’ll laugh at her wanting a goto to the user.
    So what good will this do her?

    I said “her” there, didn’t I? Twice.They’ve got me doing it. Him. Definitely a him

    Second thoughts. I’ll run the sun-dress through the dryer, sign on to Mumsnet -you know his real name, please? – and deadname the tosspot everywhichway out of a Colombian e-mail addy logging on in Moscow. What’s he going to do about it?

  10. I hope the Muslims take on the tranny activists real soon. Surely there is something in the Koran or a Hadith they can kick off about.

  11. Sam,

    Apparently Iran has the highest proportion of trans persons of anywhere on the planet. Because becoming a woman is a reasonable way of getting around the noosely-enforced prohibition on gay activities.

  12. Possibly not, Mr Vara. Why would the ragheads have problems with cross dressing? It’s hard to tell them apart in the first place. Smaller moustaches on the women?

  13. Hang on, hang on. Hang on right there. This woman was arrested because she referred to a person as “he” and by a name, both of which are on said person’s birth certificate? SURELY that can’t be right, can it?!

    By that token, you could be arrested for referring to a woman by her maiden name. After all, that name is part of her past and no longer in use – that could be “deadnaming”, right?

  14. Holy shitballs. Story checks out (sorry for my suspcion, but that simply sounds more like an April Fool’s joke than a legitimate arrest). What on earth is going on over in the UK?!

  15. What on earth is going on over in the UK?!

    The same shit that’ll be going on in Ireland in 5 or 10 years

  16. Here’s a counter view; we should be deliriously happy about this.

    No wait, let me explain…..

    You know, I know and even the bloke in a dress knows this is utterly insane. The problem is, “we” (by which I mean society as collective) have played along with various degrees of mental illness in a misguided attempt to be kind.

    Unfortunately, this pretence and denial of reality has encouraged the deluded or perhaps emboldened the mendacious into this sort of activism using the softer, kinder interpretation of what any child of 5 could tell you was true.

    The only way this is halted, and some semblance of reality is returned is via the courts.

    The quicker we have test cases up in front of judges and juries the sooner we can stop slapping our foreheads in despair at these lunatics.

    Of course, the risk is the judges aren’t logically consistent in their rulings but that’s a second problem. The primary problem is we’ve allowed key institutions to develop a multi-variable hierarchy of victimhood that falls like a house of cards when prodded in the slightest.

  17. Tim Newman said: “Good point. Although the gay rights lot seem to spend an awful lot of time using the LGBT abbreviation, e.g. when talking about LGBT rights in Chechnya.”

    I agree that the gay rights groups use the term LGBT to cover issues in such as you say Chechnya. However, the reasoning for these groups to use this abbreviation comes in part from the pressure put on them by trans activists. In ‘Woke World’ being accused of ‘transphobia’, even if you have a logical argument against it or like me see the ‘T’ as having no place among LGB, has been turned by the various aggressive trans activists and trans groups, into career and social death.

    My experience of too many trans activists is that they are the most intolerant, most aggressive, most unprincipled and indeed the most violent of all the groups under the LGBT umbrella. I suspect that some gay, lesbian and bisexual groups have had dealings with trans activists that may have gone something like this: ‘Nice LGB group you have here, be a shame to lose it or have its reputation damaged woudn’t it?’ Too often the trans activists have behaved like racketeers and said ‘include the T or else we’ll smear you as being ‘non inclusive’.

    Some groups like Stonewall for instance have voluntarily gone full lunatic on the trans issue at a time when they should be dealing with more pressing issues, for example the growth of Islam-inspired gay bashing. There has I’m pleased to see, criticism coming from within the LGB activist world of Stonewall’s trans focus and earlier this year their CEO left as the organisation is rocked by criticism of its excessive trans focus. A fair bit of this criticism is coming from lesbians who quite rightly in my view, worry about women’s spaces including intimate spaces, being colonised by men who can say they are male one day, female the next and non binary the day after that,which is something that could occur if the GRA is put into law.

  18. However, the reasoning for these groups to use this abbreviation comes in part from the pressure put on them by trans activists. In ‘Woke World’ being accused of ‘transphobia’, even if you have a logical argument against it or like me see the ‘T’ as having no place among LGB, has been turned by the various aggressive trans activists and trans groups, into career and social death.

    I can well believe that.

    There has I’m pleased to see, criticism coming from within the LGB activist world of Stonewall’s trans focus and earlier this year their CEO left as the organisation is rocked by criticism of its excessive trans focus.

    That’s good to hear.

  19. Interesting to see that the hairstyle he has chosen to demonstrate his womanliness is a proper ‘call the manager job’.

  20. Jeez but it’s a pretty damning indictment of this whole boondoggle when the Daily Mail – the Daily Mail for crying out loud! – has to disable comments on the article….

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