Unprotected Sects

There is one thing to take away from this story:

It’s a diplomatic spat no one saw coming, but tensions have over the past few weeks been escalating between China and Sweden.

It all started earlier in September when Chinese tourists were removed from a hotel by Swedish police, a move which was heavily condemned by the Chinese government.

But matters were made worse when a satirical Swedish television show joked about Chinese people eating dogs and defecating in public.

Earlier this month, a video emerged of Chinese tourists allegedly being thrown out of a hotel by police in Stockholm.

A Chinese man and his parents had allegedly arrived at the hotel at midnight – hours before they were due to check in. They asked to stay in the lobby but were refused, and eventually were forcibly removed by police.

In the video, the Chinese man is seen yelling in English “This is killing. This is killing”, while falling over dramatically. His mother is seen wailing and crying in Chinese, saying “help”, while police officers look on.

That is, Chinese people are not afforded the status, privileges, and protections of members of a Protected Class in Sweden. It’s becoming rather obvious that western progressives can be as insulting and abusive towards Chinese (and Russians) as they like, whereas other groups are feted and protected by law. You can imagine the fires that would be raging in Stockholm now were they members of a Protected Class that were chucked out of that hotel, and depicted in such a way on national television.

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23 thoughts on “Unprotected Sects

  1. It’s bizarre. How do you get to be a Protected Class in Sweden and indeed in other Western countries? Does there have to be some sort of media event in which you are portrayed as victims? I thought that Swedes had just grown up in a sort of bland semi-utopian paradise and absorbed universal human rights and respect etc. with their mothers’ milk. That their desire to help Muslims and refugees and trannies was like a young child’s desire to help sick animals.

  2. Tim,
    China and Sweden are at loggerheads due to the treatment the former meted to Guo Minhang, a swedish passport bearer abducted by so called Chinese “security forces” in Thailand, and then paraded in mainland television on bullshit charges. His fault lies in being a part owner of a bookstore in HK that published yellow literature on the private life and vices of the communist leadership, including the current president for life Xi, all rubbish for sure but nevertheless falling under the notoriously lousy definition of state secret) All the other owners had also foreign passports (one UK holder) and thought that would protect them against reprisals from the communist party, but all of them had been taken and currently are held in China, except one that was allowed back to HK but reneged on his promise of keeping silent and spilled the beans on the whole matter. That probably sealed the fate of the remaining ones, since the chinese communists are very fast learners. The same Gui was snatched in a train by same special forces while accompanied by Swedish diplomats, in an astounding breach of any protocol this spring. The satyrical program in Sweden is the closest thing similar to a proper response to the above situation from a directly involved Western government, and i think the protected status we are here discussing is the last cause of this incident.

  3. marostegan

    that’s an incident that hasn’t seemingly made it into the MSM…

    That said – the Chinese CP is seemingly cultivating xenophobia domestically (on the basis that the Internet domestically is seriously locked down / directed) as the expat guys on the ADVChina vlog have discovered,

    If Swedish telly comedians are as politically diverse as Brit ones perhaps the Chinese are the new Tories? i.e. it’s inept

  4. The bookseller thing was covered sporadically but in some depth by the SCaMP, but seems to have gone quiet recently. I can’t think why.

  5. Thanks very much for the background info, marostagen. If we had a half-competent media we’d know about this, and the story I linked to would have mentioned this rather important context.

    Still, if it were a non-Chinese country arresting a dual-national Swede for blasphemy I doubt we’d see his ethnic brethren being turfed out of hotels by the Stockholm police.

  6. There’s likely a cultural aspect to this as well. Multiple generations of the One Child Policy have resulted in a country full of Little Emperors, only male children who were doted on by their parents, denied nothing, and have become absolutely insufferable as a result. The rules simply don’t apply to them, is the mentality. This guy’s histrionics certainly sound very familiar.

  7. My spider sense is tingling here. Something doesn’t add up.

    Why is there at midnight the night before?

    Most hotels I’ve been to allow late check in. And if it were a misunderstanding (timezones and such) they usually seek to accommodate a customer in some way. If they have no rooms, they usually have a rollodex of alternate places.

    Something doesn’t add up. I can’t see this is how Swedes run their hospitality businesses. Maybe the chinese dude cheesed them off somehow.

  8. normal behavior from Chinese people I would say when they are not allowed to take the piss with regard to check in times

  9. “Why is there at midnight the night before?”

    Flights from the far east to Europe can depart at confusing times. For example, the Swiss flight from Hong Kong to Zürich over the last several years has been variously listed at 23:59 and 00:01. I know because I’ve been on it more times than I can remember.

    Even I get nervous about exactly when I should turn up for it. Would you like to bet how many people miss that flight by exactly one day? Or get their “your flight is ready to check in” a day earlier than they expect and panic, and make the flight?

  10. I have, for various reasons, been away from this blog for over a year. The very first article is more interesting than most of the MSM and the responses are intelligent and insightful. I’m glad to be back! Thanks to all of you including our host. And no, it was not a prison stretch!

  11. @Daniel Ream. The reason that Chinese people elect to have male children only is rooted in the Chinese culture and the state social security rules.

    There is no “Retirement Pension” provision in China and certainly no private pensions. Communism put paid to that. Your only security in old age is to have children to look after you and the culture pretty well enforces this rule.

    Now, the obligation to look after aged parents falls wholly on the male children. A daughter has no obligation or duty to even financially provide for herself and is a financial liability on her parents until she marries when the husband assumes liability to support her. An unmarried woman earning a decent salary has no obligation to pay her way even in the form of board and lodgings. All her cash is her own to dispose of how she wishes.

    If you delve into the back copies of the South China Morning Post, you will see many reports of aged parents successfully suing their sons for maintenance when they are too old to work and provide for themselves.

    If a one child only policy is enforced, which sex are you likely to select if that is the case? Hence the “preference” for male children and the suspiciously high “accident” and fatality rate of female children about the age of two allowing a second chance for a son.

    Of course, it is blamed on evil patriarchy …

  12. Are we reading the same BBC article? It clearly explains the bookseller situation:

    And there’s also the ongoing issue of Gui Minhai, a Swedish citizen and bookseller based in Hong Kong who was seized by Chinese authorities in January while travelling to Beijing on a train from Ningbo in eastern China.

    He was with two Swedish diplomats and was said to have been on his way to see a Swedish specialist doctor. Chinese state media, however, accused Sweden of trying to spirit him out of China.

    I’m not shy of criticising the BBC, but frankly on this occasion they’ve gone into more detail than most mainstream media outlets. Unless the bbc.com version of the article is shorter than the bbc.co.uk version?

  13. Unless the bbc.com version of the article is shorter than the bbc.co.uk version?

    No, I suspect I’ve been a dolt and missed it. I find BBC articles notoriously hard to read because they leap to another part of the story, then another, before returning to the first part. A lot of the time this is to draw attention away from what has actually happened.

  14. AndrewM

    after actually innumerable “you didn’t read it right” moments (and granted sometimes I don’t ) I am very, very suspicious indeed of the BBC web site. They have a HABIT of stealth editing. The “Israelis kill Palestinian worker” story journey….. where a crazed JCB driver using his machine to try and kill people he assumed were Israelis went through at least 4 very different versions a while back.

    If I’m going to quote a BBC story – I always X-ref these days and if it looks contentious or skewed enough I look at web sites that snapshot the BBC front page and follow the individual articles as they morph.

    ps BBC content can absolutely be very different when viewed from different IP addresses – this turns up regularly when I put stuff I reckon worthwhile into the WayBack machine – once or twice over 10 years the article isn’t even served up to a US IP address. Differences were quite common during the 2016 POTUS contest.

  15. pps I’d have thought the WayBack machine tactic might have been twigged by the BBC web monkeys – it might still work – I’d be interested to hear if anybody else has used it (vs VPN / proxy antics)

  16. With the Causeway Bookstore abduction saga the chinese communists may well be testing the resolve of the Western governments when one of their passport holders is hold with souped up charges. No matter how much straight face the communists make excuses and stir up trouble abroad to make their tame populace believe the country has become great again (a long held stale slogan from Mao’s insurgency up to now), all this will stop when someone up in the higher echelons of the party will be stopped and detained when abroad or even better, spirited away to reappear in front of a Western court to respond to similar charges and without diplomatic assistance.
    The main sources for Gui Minhai and his co-owners of Causeway Bookstore saga are usually South China Morning Post (now becoming a crowing outlet for communist propaganda after being taken over by Alibaba), Asia Sentinel, Asia Times and Hong Kong Free Press (the last two are tilting way much to the political left, but with patience one can still sift through good material).
    Regarding the original topic of Tim’s post, i do believe too if in place of China were Saudi Arabians (to say one) the result would have been much different. Still it looks the political situation in Sweden is going to enter the usual confusion phase following a strong show of sovranist parties in polls, with the taking down of the incumbent prime minister, and if i have to believe what momma BBC says, after four unsuccessfull attempts to form a government, there would be new polls, so we are still on track to see the clowns doing their things in the circus

  17. There used to be a website which compared past and present revisions of BBC News articles, but I can’t find it any more. It regularly highlighted this kind of thing. Perhaps I should create it myself.

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