Driven to suicide by bullies, or his mother?

There’s something missing from this story:

A nine-year-old boy has killed himself after enduring four days of homophobic bullying at school in Denver, Colorado, his mother says.

Leia Pierce told KDVR-TV that her son, Jamel Myles, revealed to her over the summer that he was gay.

She said Jamel wanted to go to school and tell his classmates because he was “proud” to be gay.

I’ve spent a good portion of this summer staying with families, and the thing that always amuses me about children under ten is how hopelessly, wonderfully innocent they are. They really have no concept of adult life and its vices, and that includes sex and sexuality. Now children can feel attractions of one sort of another, and homosexuals when they reach adulthood say they always knew they felt “different”, but they don’t have the faintest understanding why. This is why sex crimes against children are so abhorrent, they are incapable of understanding what is being done to them. The only way a child of nine can possibly be “proud” to be gay is if his parents, or others around him, have exposed him to sex or drummed sexuality into him long before he’s capable of grasping the concept.

She said that when he had told her he was gay, he looked “so scared”, but she reassured him she still loved him.

If your nine year old son is telling you he’s gay, you should perhaps ask yourself what environment he’s grown up in. Now there is no mention of a father here; what’s the betting this woman raised her children in an ultra-woke environment where they were exposed to swathes of adult sexuality and encouraged to indirectly participate, i.e. talking about it, seeing naked adults, or declaring pride in one’s supposed orientation? It certainly wouldn’t be the first time a single mother has forced her son to adopt feminine traits at an age where he cannot possibly understand, let alone object.

“My son told my oldest daughter the kids at school told him to kill himself,” Ms Pierce said.

“I’m just sad he didn’t come to me. I’m so upset that he thought that was his option.”

It sounds as though the child had serious mental problems, probably as a result of his upbringing. What does the mother have to say about that, I wonder?

But there’s another issue here. Supposing it’s true that this child went to school boasting he’s gay and the other kids bullied him so much he committed suicide. What are we going to do about it? That young children can be notoriously cruel is hardly new; most of us read Lord of the Flies at school. Either schools attempt the impossible task of getting under tens to not bully the odd kid, or they start locking up nine year olds for homophobic bullying (or at least sending them home, and perhaps jailing their parents).

There is another option, of course: stop sexualising children so much they are proudly gay at age nine and bragging about it in the school yard. If we let children be children instead of extensions of their parents’ deep insecurities and unwilling participants in their political activism, this wouldn’t be a problem. However, I don’t hold out much hope. The way we’re heading under our current rulers, paedophilia will soon be celebrated (unless the perpetrator is Catholic) and normal parents locked up if their child so much as teases someone in an unapproved manner.

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31 thoughts on “Driven to suicide by bullies, or his mother?

  1. I noticed this story too and thought there was something missing.
    The suicide of such a young child is so awful to comprehend. But suicide results from a combination of factors, it’s never just one thing, e.g. mental health issues, personality traits (impulsivity, poor emotional regulation), environmental factors/stressors (bullying, family conflict, low level of support from family and friends, exposure to suicide). It’s hard to imagine that a few days of bad bullying would be alone sufficient to drive a child to suicide, there are other factors at play here.
    Children generally don’t tell people if they are suicidal. So it is likely that his mother was unaware of any fragility on the part of her son. But the fact that he was so stressed and upset when telling her that he was gay (and she is clearly v sympathetic to that) might suggest that this young boy was really struggling with this idea and was fearful of other people’s response. This seems inconsistent with then bouncing to school to excitedly tell his peers he was ‘proud to be gay’. I agree he was probably encouraged to do this/develop this attitude. This strikes me as very naive at best. Of course he should not be ashamed about who he is. But that needs to be considered against the risk of bullying and the tendency for children to act horribly towards anyone who is a bit ‘different’. This poor boy needed to be protected from that.

  2. His mother’s version of the causes of her son’s – tragic – suicide is not helped by her pink hair and lip piercing. In and of themselves they mean nothing, but they do tend to be sported by a certain type.

    I think that it is just as likely that she told him that he was gay, due to her: wishful thinking; misandry; how ‘cool’ it would appear to her circle; and his, potentially, feminised behaviour.

    What a waste of such a young life.

  3. Nine year olds can grasp the concepts of homophobia, race prejudice, religious difference, handicap, etc. but they are incapable of applying them systematically. (Thank goodness.)

    We’ll never know what drove the kid over the edge. Maybe it was homophobic bullying. But we shouldn’t exclude the likelihood of a shakedown by the mother in the aftermath.

  4. In and of themselves they mean nothing, but they do tend to be sported by a certain type.

    It’s the hallmark of an attention-seeker, looking to for shock value in any normal person they encounter. If you’re doing this over the age of about 25, there’s something wrong with you.

  5. This story reeks to high heaven.

    What the fck does a nine year old boy know about being gay and wanting to be so? Why would he be fearlfull telling his mom and not his classmates?

    How does a nine year old seriously think about killing themselves?

    I think they need to look harder at the mother here. With my own kids, I drilled into them, every time it came up, that their sexuality was their business and to keep it to themselves. No one likes that stuff thrown in their face, expecting approval. People won’t hate you because you’re gay, they hate that you’re proud of it.

  6. “Hey everyone, I’m gay!”

    “What does that mean?”

    “Dunno, it’s what my mom says I am. She says I have to tell everyone.”

    “Okay. Wanna go throw stones into the pond?”

    “Sure, yeah, let’s go.”

  7. “four days of homophobic bullying at school”

    Four days?

    What was the mother doing about it during these four days? Anything? Anything at all?

  8. pink hair and lip piercing. In and of themselves they mean nothing

    Ohhhhh, yes they do.

    Let’s assume – rather charitably – that the mother is telling the truth.

    The most likely explanation is that this kid was molested by an older boy or an adult, and his child’s brain, inadequate to the task, rationalized that as meaning he was gay. Getting bullied for being gay does not cause a nine-year-old to commit suicide. Getting bullied for being gay on top of trying to cope with the trauma of sexual assault, on the other hand…

  9. How can a pre-pubescent child have a sexual orientation at all? The sorry episode does have the whiff of ‘vegan cat’ about it.

  10. I doubt the kids would have suddenly turned on him because he said he was gay. As many have pointed out that would convey no meaning to him or them. There has to be some history here.

  11. How does a nine year old even commit suicide? I’ve looked at a lot the news reports and there is no mention in any of them of the method used. This story stinks on multiple levels.

    And of course, Mommie dearest has set up a GoFundMe page.

  12. @Benaud – these days we have a special form of sexual abuse called “sex education”, which has gradually developed from teaching teenagers how not to get pregnant (with little discernable effect) into teaching primary school kids about the “benefits” of various forms of sexual deviancy.

    I’m currently one of the tent leaders on a summer camp for 11-14s. Now I became sexually aware about aged 11-12 (without any help from school!).
    I’ve a tent now of 12 year olds who I’ve gathered from conversation have been exposed (in the name of sex education – not from their own “research”) to pretty graphic videos of a human birth, and what basically sounded like little better than a porn video of adults having sex. Given the general enthusiasm for primary school “sex education” are we surprised that some 9 year olds lads now
    a) know what being gay is, at least in theory
    b) because pubity hasn’t kicked in yet see nothing appealing about girls
    c) therefore decided that they must be gay
    Fortunately most parents have more sense than to encourage this – but probably if they do the results are pretty messed up – with this particular kid being a particularly extreme (and tragic) example.

    Same thing with the transgender idiocy – my sister (now 29) was a mega tomboy until pubity hit- she’s pretty convinced that if she was growing up now she would have been encouraged whilst 7 or 8 to decide she was a boy (which she would have gladly accepted), stuck on hormone blockers, and thus never have received nature’s natural “cure” for this sort of silliness – probably leading to her having a totally messed up life. As it is, she’s getting married – as a bride – in two months time, to a normal decent bloke.

  13. @Sonny Wayze,

    Christ on a bike.

    Where to begin?

    1. Who gets to define “hate speech”?
    2. What is the statistical/medical evidence on gender dysphoria prior to puberty?
    3. What is it about double-barrelled surnames? There are two in that article. What happens when two double-barrels marry, do they have quadruple-barrelled kids (of indeterminate gender)?

  14. What is the correct word for two or three orders of magnitude beyond ‘evil’?

    “Canada”.

  15. “Canada”.

    Just came off a teleconference with some Canadians whereby we are pricing some of this massive pipeline work that is coming up in their country in joint venture with them. I can see that I will be having some fun and games with them if we win that job. Even if we don’t win this bid, there is that much work coming up there we will be going in sooner or later and adapting to the local culture!

  16. “there is that much work coming up there we will be going in sooner or later and adapting to the local culture!”

    Not how it works.

    You go up there and they adapt to you.

    Works for our beardie chums.

  17. Yes I know but I like to let them think that we are adapting to them.

    We will draw the line at the bashing to death of baby seals though, enough is enough.

  18. “We will draw the line at the bashing to death of baby seals though, enough is enough.”

    Says the man who’s never tried baby seal biltong.

    To be fair, you think oysters need to be cooked too, if I recall correctly though.

  19. @theProle
    “Given the general enthusiasm for primary school “sex education” are we surprised that some 9 year olds lads now
    a) know what being gay is, at least in theory
    b) because pubity hasn’t kicked in yet see nothing appealing about girls
    c) therefore decided that they must be gay”

    Very true,

  20. Are you allowed to publish that? It seems to implicate vibrant diverse enrichers. I am sure they were merely being misunderstood.

    Racism will not be tolerated.

  21. massive pipeline work that is coming up in their country

    Wait, we’re building pipelines? Unpossible.

  22. ==================
    3. What is it about double-barrelled surnames? There are two in that article. What happens when two double-barrels marry, do they have quadruple-barrelled kids (of indeterminate gender)?
    ==================
    Can’t speak to the gender issue, but IIRC the Spanish have arrived at a sensible approach: The sprog takes the matriarchal bit of the mother’s name and the patriarchal bit of the father’s name. Seems to have worked for generations, therefore undoubtably due to be thrown out and replaced.

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