Consistency

Here’s a story:

GPs should be based in gyms in a bid to tackle Britain’s growing obesity crisis, public health experts say

“For too long the NHS has shouldered the burden of society’s unhealthy lifestyles. A radical and imaginative move like this could empower people to take responsibility for their own health and move towards an NHS focused on prevention over cure.”

More than one in four adults in the UK are now obese and obesity-related conditions cost the NHS more than £1billion a year.

Studies have shown British adults lead increasingly sedentary lifestyles, which is fuelling the obesity crisis.

Last month, University of Liverpool researchers revealed that living a “couch potato” lifestyle and staying desk-bound all day at the office for just two weeks triggered a decline in health which could spiral into weight gain and health problems like diabetes. But exercising and being active throughout the day reversed symptoms within a fortnight.

Now experts believe making access to exercise easier could encourage more people to take it up, reducing the burden of obesity on the NHS.

Britain is a nation of obese land-whales who don’t get enough exercise, putting an intolerable burden on the NHS. Okay, got it. Here’s another story:

Remember the “beach body ready” adverts that were banned by the Advertising Standards Authority a few years ago?

The infamous bright yellow billboards by Protein World read “are you beach body ready?” alongside the image of a slim, blonde woman in a yellow bikini.

[They] received a huge amount of backlash about the body image message they were sending – in a nutshell, the internet unanimously decided they were body shaming.

Which is why one plus-size fashion brand’s latest campaign has been a breath of fresh air.

Mimicking Protein World’s original 2015 adverts in colour scheme and style, navabi’s campaign champions women of all sizes as we get further towards beach season.

It features models including Bethany Rutter, navabi’s own social editor, Stephanie Yeboah, otherwise known as NerdAboutTown and Lauren Tallulah Smeets, also known as Curvy Roamer.

The billboard will appear in London’s West End this week, in addition to navabi’s website dedicated to the campaign.

So showing slim women in a bikini constitutes “body-shaming”, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being fat, and indeed it should be celebrated.

So which is it? The two stories are somewhat contradictory, yes? Actually, no. The first thing to understand is none of this is about health, nor problems with how society views women. The “health experts” in the first story are concerned primarily with increasing their own power, prestige, and incomes; similarly, NHS employees are mostly interested in making their lives easier, either by working less or getting paid more. Both groups enjoy using their positions to tell millions of people how to live, which coincidentally looks an awful lot like middle-class snobbery.

Those who complained about the original Protein World advert and are praising the navabi one are primarily interested in promoting their lifestyle choices, forcing people to approve them instead of subjecting them to ridicule. They don’t care whether they are healthy or not, they simply don’t like the usual public reaction to X, Y, and Z and think society should change its views to align with theirs.

Far from being contradictory, the two campaigns are wholly consistent in that both are run by a handful of grifters who think they get to tell people how to live and what they should think. That today’s chosen subject matter appears to bring the respective efforts into conflict overlooks the principle aim of each campaign: you must do as we say. This is why you get people supporting both NHS policies on obesity while simultaneously celebrating fatness.

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27 thoughts on “Consistency

  1. Perhaps they should start on the 1.5m people who work within the NHS, a good proportion of whom are obese themselves. If the NHS doesn’t want to force its own employees to lay off the doughnuts, why the fuck should they consider they have any right to lecture the rest of us?

  2. I remember a wag suggesting that police stations should be on council estates because that’s where the criminals are.

  3. Expect the BBC etc to be banging this drum endlessly while ignoring completely any other, more awkward, reasons for more people making demands on the NHS.

  4. I’ve struggled with my weight for nearly two decades and my experience with GP’s over that time has been fairly consistent. Every one of them has told me “You need to lose weight” and all but one was a female GP who weighed at least as much as I did, despite being shorter than me. Obviously, being a mere supplicant in the divine Temple of the NHS I couldn’t actually say anything in retort, but my sarcastically raised left eyebrow spoke volumes.

    Funnily enough (based upon your previous thread about 4Chan), I actually found the support I needed to finally lose the weight on 4Chan’s fitness boards. As of this mornings weigh in I am 71 pounds down from my pre-weight loss peak of 256 pounds last November and still losing a couple of pounds a week. What was my GP’s comment when I visited her 2 weeks ago? “You’re losing too much weight too quickly. You need to cut back on that”. Fuck these people. Fuck them all.

    I’ve known a few doctors socially and despite all of the messages about drinking and obesity, they all drank like fish and were the last to finally give up smoking. Something to do with the stresses of medical college, or so they say…

  5. I am yet to be convinced that boozers, smokers and fatties really do cost the NHS the sums claimed.

    I would like to see some proper data and comparison with the costs incurred by: fatuous public health campaigns, useless managers, IT procurement fuck-ups, union staff that don’t work, six-figure earning 4 day a week GPs who do fuck all apart from prescribe drugs that you can get for 1/4 the price from Boots and sign sicknotes for people perfectly capable of working*, the 3 million immigrants added to the population over the past 2 decades, hysterically preparing for imaginary pandemics, overpaying for everything and diversity.

    I fail to see why the lowly pisshead or fat fuck should be denied care in order to cover the cost of the bullshit above.

    Come to think of it, if you are to be denied care for failing to take care of your waistline, why are we paying for abortions or aids care, when a condom can prevent both HIV and pregnancy?

  6. Argh! I need brain bleach – and I’m a female who has had two children!

  7. and still losing a couple of pounds a week. What was my GP’s comment when I visited her 2 weeks ago? “You’re losing too much weight too quickly. You need to cut back on that”. Fuck these people. Fuck them all.

    That’s a fine rate to lose at. About what I did. And it has a major psychological advantage cos you see it almost day to day, and you can spot a random plateau and then… erm… miss dinner or go for a run or something to kickstart it again.

  8. That’s a fine rate to lose at. About what I did. And it has a major psychological advantage cos you see it almost day to day, and you can spot a random plateau and then… erm… miss dinner or go for a run or something to kickstart it again.

    The nice thing is shifting from XXL and 48 inch waist to a medium and 38 inch waist. I can now buy clothes off the rack in the high street rather than having to get stuff made.

    Had to give all my old clothes away as they looked like clown pants / circus tents on me.

    My current long run average weight loss over the 160 days I’ve been doing it is 0.5 pounds per day (0.2 KG), which is not bad going really. That’s about 1.5 KG / 3.25 pounds per week, which is a bit higher than the recommended 2 pounds per week but fuck the “experts”…what do they know.

  9. Wait, where are they going to get the GPs to put in the gyms? Anyone ever managed to get a GP appointment when you wanted one?

    Anyone? Bueller?

  10. “I am yet to be convinced that boozers, smokers and fatties really do cost the NHS the sums claimed.”

    You’re right to be sceptical, because the idea is bollocks, on stilts. The people who make the most demands on the State’s purse for their needs (over a lifetime) are those who live the longest. A fat person may get diabetes and need treatment for that, and maybe hip replacements at some point, but they’re far more likely to die young, thus saving the State a) all the healthcare costs of decades of old age, b) many years, possibly decades of State pension, and c) any nursing home type care costs at end of life. You can also add in that the smokers and drinkers (and to some extent the fatties, depending on how much Vatable food they buy) will have contributed significant amounts of tax revenue while alive. The net cost to the State of smoker and drinker who dies in their 60s or early 70s will be far lower (maybe even negative) compared to a healthy eating non-smoker, non drinker who lives to aged 90, the last 10 to 15 of which is in and out of hospital and maybe several years in a nursing home with dementia at the end.

    If the social insurance model of healthcare, pensions and end of life care is to continue, the State must actively encourage them to smoke, drink and eat themselves into earlier graves, or at least stop trying to prevent them from so doing of their own volition.

  11. Julia: Even if the fuckwits could find the GPs what is the point of putting them in gyms?

    Those who go to gyms are already fit or are trying to get there. So what would the medical morons do ? Spend all day saying “Keep up the good work”?

    As for the three FAT stooges pictured above: they could each send me an invitation to shag them wrapped around £100,000 in notes and I’d send each invite back in a bucket of Nutella. Tho’ I would try to keep the cash— unless they have better lawyers than they do health and beauty advisors.

  12. It would be a great idea if every parent sent a letter informing them that their kid was overweight went to the GP and demanded a proper assessment of body fat content.
    The ludicrousness of the figures would soon become apparent.

  13. they could each send me an invitation to shag them wrapped around £100,000 in notes and I’d send each invite back in a bucket of Nutella.

    I can see your point, but what if they sent the invite but held back the £300k until you’d done the deed?

    Oddly enough, £100k a pop is my going rate for this sort of work. I’d be tempted to ask for more as I don’t like tattoos, but if I could get all three jobs done on the one day, I wouldn’t quibble.

  14. “I can see your point, but what if they sent the invite but held back the £300k until you’d done the deed? ”

    No deal.

    You have to draw the line somewhere in this sad world.

  15. Marge: I think we should get something the whole town can be proud of.

    Homer: Like a giant billboard that says “No Fat Chicks”?

  16. “I am yet to be convinced that boozers, smokers and fatties really do cost the NHS the sums claimed.”

    I’m sure I have read recently that the biggest increase in A & E admissions was from people with sports injuries. (health nuts!).

  17. Nemesis
    It’s sports on Saturdays, drunks in the evening, DIYers on Sunday.

  18. Don’t forget to tune in next week folks, we’ll be praying away the gay .

  19. “GPs should be based in gyms in a bid to tackle Britain’s growing obesity crisis, public health experts say.”

    Better they should hang out in the grocery stores yelling at people who are buying all the tasty carbohydrates.

    (But then, these are likely the same “experts” who told us for decades that carbs form the base of the healthy food triangle. You don’t get fat from lack of exercise – you get fat from eating carbs.)

  20. You don’t get fat from lack of exercise – you get fat from eating carbs.

    Not quite true. The reason most people get fat is that they eat beyond their body’s signals which tell them when they are satiated, since the food and drink is so tasty and all. In doing this they develop a combination of insulin / leptin and ghrelin resistance. As people get fatter the fat itself further dampens these signals by suffocating the body’s organs as well as providing its own hormone problems due to the creation of aromatase (aka estrogen synthetase) which is especially problematic in men.

    By losing weight AND cutting out simple and complex carbs (but retaining fibre) the body’s maladapted insulin / leptin and ghrelin resistance can be restored, but it takes both time and effort.

    I’ve been doing this since mid-November 2017 and I’m only about half-way there in terms of getting rid of the excess fat that is strangling my organs and producing unwanted aromatase, but at least my body is reacting as it should to insulin / leptin and ghrelin once again.

    https://idmprogram.com/fix-broken-metabolism/

  21. The Ugly Tree (genus navabi) drops more poison fruit

    Given the choice of celibacy or “make love” to one of those navabi obese munters I’d choose celibacy.

  22. I’m laughing at the urging of some commentators that you should apply LOGIC (Hawk! Spit! How MASCULINE!!!) to the problem … it will get you branded a sexist, misogynistic male privilege type. This report, relating to women, their earning potential and their contributions and drain on the States finances is interesting reading:

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2375926

    Appendix 2 on page 44 onwards is revealing, particularly Figure A2.2 and the very last graph (Figure A2.6) on page 46. There is that male privilege again, eh?

    OK, it is based on New Zealand but I should imagine that it is, within a few percentage points, accurate for most western countries with a healthcare and welfare system similar to that of NZ.

    So, if you ARE going to take the stance that those that are using the system/costing the system the most should pay the most, then it’s sexist. Oh, and the fat acceptance people are 99% female so you can’t say anything in opposition to them, either.

    Consistency? It is an oppressive construct perpetuated by heteronomative males and therefore not allowed …

    (Tim, can’t you sort out comments being able to use a different set of fonts and label one The sarcasm Font? The world needs one, that’s for sure).

  23. “I’ve been doing this since mid-November 2017 and I’m only about half-way there in terms of getting rid of the excess fat that is strangling my organs and producing unwanted aromatase, but at least my body is reacting as it should to insulin / leptin and ghrelin once again.”

    I did a more-or-less keto diet (+/- 1200 kcal per day of mostly fat % protein) for about 3 months which enabled me to drop 20kg. And I have a fairly sedentary lifestyle. After the initial fairly horrible 2 weeks were over and my body had adjusted, I noticed that I was no longer having massive blood sugar dropouts. So once I finished losing weight I’ve stayed on a similar diet, but allow myself more carbs than I used to (a bit of pasta, one or two small pieces of chocolate a day, wine, that sort of thing). However, if I have my bacon & eggs for breakfast without a slice of toast I tend to make it to lunchtime without a blood sugar dropout, but if I add toast to it I’ll drop out around 11am.

  24. There’s also an elision in the statistics of health and excess weight.

    “Overweight” people are not unhealthy. A bit of fat is good for you. They’re healthier than a lot of people who put strain on their bodies to stay thin. (I can easily maintain 70 kgs, but I choose to be at 75 because I feel better. I’d rather be 80 than 70.)

    Slightly obese people aren’t in much danger either, provided they do some exercise. There’s some tubby old men who do physical jobs (farmer, builder etc) who can outlast any fitness freak over a day’s hard labour. (Note this is the government version of “obese” which overall just very tubby). It’s the lack of exercise that really matters, not the slight excess of weight.

    Only the very obese are at real danger to their health. After a certain point you really do stress your body in dangerous ways.

    Lumping the very obese with the mild in the statistics is naughty. It’s like lumping cross country with downhill skiing, noting the increased risk of death and injury, and then asserting that all skiing is dangerous — ignoring just downhill being the actual danger.

    All sorts of upper-middle class things are horrifically dangerous — equestrian, rock climbing, mountaineering, parachuting, skiing. When they ban those, then I’ll believe that the obesity crusade is really about protecting people’s lives.

  25. All sorts of upper-middle class things are horrifically dangerous — equestrian, rock climbing, mountaineering, parachuting, skiing. When they ban those, then I’ll believe that the obesity crusade is really about protecting people’s lives.

    Or when the BBC illustrates an ‘article’ on obesity with a photograph of a Camembert and not a burger.

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