The Feminists who Enable Sex-Pests

I’ve written before about my theory that many feminists take a dim view of men because those they choose to associate with are low-grade scumbags. Only recently we had a woman saying that all men were sex-pests and a few minutes later labelling men who weren’t sex-pests as “boring”, and I have written several posts on how Laurie Penny’s views of men tell us more about who she befriends than it does about men in general. Just in case one or two of you were thinking this theory doesn’t hold water, let me share this tweet from Laurie herself:

Now there’s a surprise, eh? But let’s just bask in the irony of someone who befriends and partners-up with a serial rapist presuming to lecture the world on the dangers of men and The Patriarchy.

So did our gal know what was going on? Did she cover for him? Alas, we don’t know and she isn’t saying:

Frankly, I’mm not surprised in the least that at least one of Laurie’s friends have turned out to be a rapist. She already told us this:

So, I’ve got this friend with a shady past. He’s a clever and conscientious person who grew up in the patriarchy, and he knows that he’s done things which may not have been criminal but have hurt people, and by people he means women. My friend has hurt women, and he doesn’t know what to do about that now, and from time to time we talk about it. That’s how it happened that, a few weeks ago, halfway through an effervescent confession in a coffee shop, the following words came out of his mouth: “Technically, I don’t think I’ve raped anyone.”

And as I said about another former friend of hers:

Why do I get the impression that this individual is not half as normal and decent as Penny is letting us believe. At a guess, I would say he is a slimy fucker of the first water who hangs around lefty circles hoping to get into the knickers of women, usually much younger and with low self-esteem and few morals, throwing out leftist and feminist platitudes to get himself accepted with no further scrutiny. Penny, at nineteen years of age, ought to have stayed well away from him even if she didn’t think he was a rapist.

For a self-declared feminist warrior who pops up in the national media to denounce misogyny and demonise men in general, she seems to befriend an awful lot of rapists and serial abusers. But as I say in the paragraph above, these types will gravitate towards people like her. Consider this tweet I read today:

Erika makes a good point. Abusive people deliberately target dysfunctional communities – such as hardcore leftists and polyamorists – knowing they won’t be turfed out on their ear. Instead, by spouting the right political platitudes, they’ll be liked and respected and can count on the support of the rest of the group if anyone lodges a complaint against them.

All of this is obvious, none of it should be a surprise. It seems a lot of these people complaining about sexually-abusive men are enabling and protecting them. For now I’ll charitably assume they are doing so unwittingly.

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35 thoughts on “The Feminists who Enable Sex-Pests

  1. I notice Lila wasn’t going to say anything publically ’til she realised there were dozens of victims.

    Strange that she’d not denounce him for three or four. Denouncing being something the left do rather well.

    It’s almost like… Oh, wait. Patriarchy, probably.

  2. Yes Tim, book research aside dearieme might have a point.

    If you applied this level of interest to say another field it may be more beneficial for you. There is always the whining Wallabies or the Ashes build up or maybe the investment boom? $18m for Paul Newman’s Rolex Daytona, Paris Hilton back on the scene and flogging cryptocurrencies, Aramco or Uber IPO. Trumps draft first year report card.

  3. Abusive people deliberately target dysfunctional communities – such as hardcore leftists and polyamorists – knowing they won’t be turfed out on their ear.

    You may find this of interest: Five Geek Social Fallacies

    I am slowly coming to a unified theory of why and how leftism has invaded so many geek communities successfully.

  4. I love the bit about it being a “long, devastating and difficult process for a great many people”. If you are a polyamorist, the rape-ripples just keep spreading and spreading…

  5. Oh, and I love the one by mumsy old feminist Linda Ward Selbie – just look at her! – about noticing when “he did stuff”. Priceless!

  6. Be careful, Mr Tim, that spending time in the world of such nutcases doesn’t damage you.

    I’ve received similar warnings in relation to my day job.

  7. You may find this of interest:

    Alas, it’s blocked at work. I’ll have to look when I’m back home at the weekend.

  8. There is always the whining Wallabies

    England beat the Breadstealers on Saturday and from Tim there’s nary a word. I quite enjoy reading your rugby match post mortems.

  9. The lefty character can best be understood as a triangle of lunacy, idiocy and malice. It’s no surprise that some lefty scumbaggery is expressed sexually.

    I wonder if Laurie ever muses that maybe her lifestyle choices are responsible for her oft-declared misery?

  10. @Henry Crun – the comments BTL on the Guardian match reports are full of whinging from down under. It’s a joy to read. Being the Guardian of course one of their sports writers is pandering to the whiners, apparently because Eddie was a bit terse with him in the post-match interview.

    While we’re on the subject of rugby; I didn’t see the match, but it seems Gatland had to cheat outrageously in order to to squeeze the taffs past Georgia. Dear, dear…

  11. Penny discovers something she doesn’t want to talk about in public. World stands amazed.

    For a self-declared feminist warrior who pops up in the national media to denounce misogyny and demonise men in general, she seems to befriend an awful lot of rapists and serial abusers.

    Got to get your material from somewhere I suppose.

  12. “I wonder if Laurie ever muses that maybe her lifestyle choices are responsible for her oft-declared misery?”

    No, that would require just the petit-est soupçon of self-doubt.

    Something of which Madame Penny has repeatedly proved herself incapable.

    Plus, it’s much easier and far more ideologically-masturbatory to blame Teh Patriarchy [sic]…

  13. You’ll enjoy* Clementine Ford’s latest offering on Lena Dunham in the SMH, Tim.

    It’s a beautiful thing to behold when the 3rd wave feminists eat their own.

    * well, more schadenfreude than enjoyment.

  14. England beat the Breadstealers on Saturday and from Tim there’s nary a word. I quite enjoy reading your rugby match post mortems.

    Alas, I’m tied up in a training course in Pau all this week so don’t have my usual time for blogging.

    But I would have liked to write something. I watched Wales v Australia and Wales were their usual shite self: dropping the ball, failing to defend the line, unimaginative in attack for the large part. But Australia weren’t much better and boy did they ride their luck: firstly a suspect try from Beale after he appeared to knock-on, and then later around the 73rd minute when Wales were awarded scrum penalty after scrum penalty on the Australian line, but with Hooper in the bin already the Aussies were content to run the clock down. One of them should have been a penalty try or another man in the bin, but I’ve always thought Australia get away with a lot against lesser teams. I am convinced that the last-minute try Wales scored would have been disallowed if it would have changed the result: I have this theory that the IRB make sure Australia don’t lose to the lesser teams through fear people back home will lose interest in the sport. What happened to Scotland against Australia in the last RWC was an absolute travesty. But Wales were still shite.

    Then Australia played England last weekend and boohoohoo, they didn’t get the lucky breaks and couldn’t rely on the referee doing them favours and they lost. Cue an avalanche of whinging. I was laughing like a drain. Well done England!

  15. I’ve said it before and, at the risk of boring everybody, I’ll say it again: if Laurie has 5% of the sex she claims to have I’d be amazed. Almost everything she does or says about the subjects speaks of her fear of the whole enterprise and the almost certain realisation that she would get no pleasure from it. However that doesn’t help in the ‘coolness’ stakes so, yeah, she’s so into polyamory, bisexuality and all the edgy and daring versions of the process of making two backs. Of course she is.

  16. Basically Laurie has put herself in a position where she is highly unlikely to have a long relationship with a nice fellow. Due to her public pronouncements and positioning, she’s fishing in a pool containing little more than irredemably-convinced left-wing beta males and the occasional predator who thinks it’s an awfully fine pool full of young and confused, royally beissued, vunerable females (with possible daddy issues) to fish in. And who, with a bit of charm and homework, can appear to rise above the mass of beta-to-gamma males.

    Most Mr. Nice Guys will run a mile from her, and any who do indeed have a punt will run screaming shortly afterwards.

  17. @abacab
    “Most Mr. Nice Guys will run a mile from her, and any who do indeed have a punt will run screaming shortly afterwards.”

    I’m not sure Laurie is looking for a chap like that. I doubt she can articulate what she does actually want. This is supposition, natch, but so much of her outlook on life seems to be adversarial to men, if she’s changed her views on what makes a good partner in the last 5 years, I suspect she’d be ideologically incompatible with anyone who might actually give her what she wants nowadays.

    Which is sad.

  18. @John – I think down she really wants a nice comfortable middle-class nice guy. Particularly one who would support her while she was going out and doing her “radical” nonsense. But the fact that she does offends her “radical” leanings, so she fights against it.

  19. John Square

    From that article: My friend’s husband wants to know if he did the right thing in standing up to a superior at work who said he was going to stop hiring “hot women” because he’d only want to assault them.

    I’d stand up to that boss as well. I don’t want to work in an office full of mumsy, ugly women. Then again I work in the sportswear/fashion industry so it’s chock full of hot women.

  20. @ Henry

    And doesn’t that line make you think of a kaffeklatsh from hell?

    A bunch of lefties gathering together to avidly go over the ways they’ve challenged the patriarchy or some shit. Each trying to out do the others until someone screams orgasmically “… yeah?! Well I called teacher smelly!”

    @abacab
    I’d lay money that’s the case. It’s a tragedy, really. I hope that she ends up with what she needs, rather than what she thinks she wants.

  21. Basically Laurie has put herself in a position where she is highly unlikely to have a long relationship with a nice fellow.

    That is certainly true.

    Whether she wants one or not I don’t know, but I would guess her outlook (along with a lot else) is similar to that of the artsy woman I got to know last year. I concluded that deep down she’d realised she was getting older and wanted something closer to a normal, stable life, the sort she was gifted from birth but threw away by hanging around beta-males, feminists, and artsy weirdos and lurching from one substandard guy to another. The “angry rebel” lifestyle has a shelf-life beyond which it gets pretty sad, especially for those who were raised middle class, and I can’t imagine she wanted to spend the next thirty years alone in a damp flat she can barely afford. She liked to brag she was happy on her own and didn’t need a man, but everyone who’s single says that and it’s usually bullshit. She wanted a partner the same as the rest of us, but she wanted two things:

    1. A normal, reasonably successful intelligent guy who she can admire and she could introduce to her family.
    2. Full acceptance of her past and current lifestyle, i.e. no “judging”

    The problem is, nobody who fits category 1 would go along with 2. She’d been surrounded with people who supported her lifestyle and choices, but strangely not found anyone to form a lasting relationship with – presumably because deep down she knows their “friendship” is superficial and she doesn’t feel anything for them. So she’s switched to dating normal guys, only they’re either repulsed or no interested at all. I suspect Laurie is in a very similar situation, but probably hasn’t even tried dating normal people.

    I think down she really wants a nice comfortable middle-class nice guy. Particularly one who would support her while she was going out and doing her “radical” nonsense. But the fact that she does offends her “radical” leanings, so she fights against it.

    Yes, that, exactly.

  22. One for Mr Newman, from the Pen of Laurie

    I’ve seen that article a few times, no way am I wading through it.

  23. I’ve said it before and, at the risk of boring everybody, I’ll say it again: if Laurie has 5% of the sex she claims to have I’d be amazed.

    I’d probably agree with that.

  24. “Lately I’ve been spending a good deal of time at the help desk, pointing men in the direction of possible answer”

    Can you actually imagine ringing up, needing help in managing the minefield of modern Western human sexual mores and getting Laurie? It would be like ringing up the IT help desk and getting the ghost of Gerrard Winstanley.

  25. I wonder if Laurie ever muses that maybe her lifestyle choices are responsible for her oft-declared misery?

    Never. These sort never do. If they did, they’d make different choices.

  26. It’s a beautiful thing to behold when the 3rd wave feminists eat their own.

    Lena Dunham’s idiocy and then ludicrous volte face amused me greatly. Clementine Ford’s casting her into the long grass does too. I only hope Ford will join her there soon.

  27. It would be like ringing up the IT help desk and getting the ghost of Gerrard Winstanley.

    Heh!

  28. ” Abusive people deliberately target dysfunctional communities – such as hardcore leftists and polyamorists”

    I’ve said this before, but I very often see a predictors/prey dynamic here, I’ve seen it at close hand when some women I knew got involved at the cult’yer end of yoga. Now, whenever I see any ‘fragile’ group of people, I start looking for the predators lurking therein, they are always there…..

  29. Another thought, would Penny have had Charles Manson as an exciting ‘bestie’ had their timelines interceded? I suspect so.

  30. Cults attract screwed-up vunerable people. Cults are typically led by predators looking for easy sex with the former.

  31. it seems Gatland had to cheat outrageously in order to to squeeze the taffs past Georgia. Dear, dear…

    I have no problem with this whatsoever.

  32. Now, whenever I see any ‘fragile’ group of people, I start looking for the predators lurking therein, they are always there…..

    Yup.

    Cults attract screwed-up vunerable people. Cults are typically led by predators looking for easy sex with the former.

    That too. And consider how much lefty politics and causes is cult-like.

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