Pride and Prejudice

Some news from Edmonton, Canada:

Mayor Don Iveson said he was sad to hear the 2019 Pride Festival was cancelled but also understands it’s a complex situation and not unique to Edmonton.

“I know many Edmontonians from all walks of life enjoy the spirit of inclusion and diversity and everyone being welcome at Pride,” he said Thursday. “A lot of people are mourning that today, concerned that they won’t have that opportunity this year. So it’s very unfortunate.”

So what caused the 2019 Pride Festival to be cancelled? Angry Christian fundamentalists? Alt-right incels in Make Canada Mediocre Again hats? White supremacists? Not quite:

A member on the society’s board of directors, whose name Global News has agreed to keep anonymous, said a funding and volunteer deficit, as well as a belief the organization could not fulfill its goal, led to the decision to cancel the event.

“We felt that we were not fulfilling our mission this year, which is to unify our community.

“And so we felt it best to step back now at a point where we can do that without causing harm to the society’s structure.”

Be patient, soon all will become clear:

In another email, festival organizers wrote about a heated meeting last week between EPFS members and other LGBTQ+ groups called Shades of Colour, which advocates for “queer and trans Indigenous, Black, and people of colour,” and RaricaNow, a group that promotes human rights for LGBTIQ+ refugees and newcomers in Canada.

“The festival has been provided demands, involving a complete restructuring of our festival and our commitments to sponsors, which we needed to bring to our membership,” the Pride Society said in an email dated April 6. “A special meeting was called as per our bylaws.”

So what was presumably a fun day out for the sane if a little extravagant gay community in Edmonton has been hijacked by a tiny bunch of lunatics who think the event should focus more (meaning, only) on non-whites, transsexuals, and refugees.

Police ended up being called when the disagreements became heated.

Which is a polite way of saying when the intersectional headcases didn’t get their way they turned violent.

“They really need to ask themselves: where is that fear coming from?” said Victoria Guzman, a member of Shades of Colour. “Because we are not the source of that fear. Who taught them to be afraid of us? We have been trying to sit at the table peacefully with them for months now. If anyone is going to be violent, it’s going to be the hate groups that show up.

Such as yourselves?

“We never asked for the festival to be cancelled whatsoever,” Guzman added. “We just asked for… We were negotiating on needs that needed to be met.”

We never wanted the guy’s restaurant burned to the ground, we just wanted our money.

She said the groups definitely made demands, but that they were negotiable.

“We made these demands because we felt that the meetings we were going to for the last 10 months weren’t really going anywhere and that they weren’t taking our needs seriously.”

Kevin Michael Grace has generously provided me with the list of demands (word doc). Let’s try to figure out why they weren’t taken seriously:

Reorganize the structure of Pride. Open Pride with a protest lead by QTIBPOC, trans folx and their allies. Allocate funding for QTIBPOC and trans folks to host community building and creative workshops – and make this the main feature of Pride in the Park.

The entire festival must be restructured so as to be in celebration of us.

It is essential, and in line with the theme ‘Stonewall’, that Pride is lead with a protest against systemic injustice. This protest will be filmed in the News…

…and a plane fully loaded with fuel will be waiting on the tarmac at Edmonton airport.

Shades of Colour Community and RaricaNow will assess via email who applies to partake in the protest and ensure the applicants adhere to a set of criteria based on the values and principles of the protest. Upon inspection by Shades of Colour and RaricaNow, applicants will be either permitted or denied entry.

This must be what SJWs mean when they say they’re inclusive.

Workshop themes can and should include: Poetry writing,
songwriting, visual art workshops, navigating gender, navigating race, spirituality and race, unlearning misogyny for masc individuals, queer and trans representation in the media, refugee storytelling workshop, refugee support workshops, cultural music, dance & drama activities, QTIBPOC mentorship, Climate Justice activism, protecting our land, indigeneity, etc.

The only bit of that I recognise is the navigating race, but why they don’t just call it orienteering like everyone else I don’t know.

These workshops and resources should take up the most space and be at the centre of Pride

For all their anti-colonialist rhetoric, this lot make the Conquistadors sound humble.

End Pride in the Park with a vigil to honour the lives of LGBTIQ2S+ activists and community members that were lost due to systemic oppression including transphobia, racism, classism, capitalism, etc.

And that nasty junction out on Highway 216.

Part of this would include setting up a memorial wall listing the names of LGBTIQ2S+ lives lost including those in other countries where their identities are delegitimized and punished.

So the organisers of gay pride need to construct a wall to keep out Mexicans, carving into it a list of unknown locals and foreigners who have died from, among other things, classism and capitalism. I have no idea why their demands weren’t taken seriously.

Moving forward, we desire Pride in the Park to continue this activity and make it a tradition in the following years.

That’s a lot of wall-building.

Let us also acknowledge the LGBTIQ+ refugees who have suffered not only in refugee camps but also within their own countries due to their sexual orientation.

I’m sorry, I’m trying to picture a tranny wandering around in a refugee camp and I’m having a hard time keeping my composure. All that, by the way, was merely Demand No. 1. Here’s Demand No. 2:

Rework the budget, and provide Shades of Colour (SoC) and RaricaNow with $20,000 each.

At least this now looks like an old-fashioned shakedown.

While we feel that $20,000 is necessary – we are open to negotiations.

How generous. But they’re not done yet. Here’s Demand No.3, and it concerns money again:

Provide the SOC Team and the RaricaNow team with money to access ongoing training so we can best create these spaces for our communities.

At this point a blank cheque will do.

As community organizers we often find ourselves facilitating the training for other agencies, and unfortunately, do not have the opportunity to access conferences ourselves. Often, the knowledge we’re desperately seeking isn’t here yet, and can only be found outside of Edmonton. In these situations, we realistically may need to travel to larger more established cities such as Brooklyn, Oakland, etc where this knowledge exists. Our demand is that the Pride Board funds these learning opportunities so that we can bring the knowledge back to our own communities.

There isn’t enough intersectional lunatic expertise in Edmonton so you need to pay for us to go on jollies to hotbeds of degeneracy such as Oakland and Brooklyn. Demand No. 4:

$1500 to fund a SOC organized QTIBPOC sober dance party on the evening of pride.

I get asking $1500 for a pissup, but who the hell shakes down an organisation for money for a sober party?

Our vision is to provide QTIBPOC with a space to move their bodies in ways that they may not feel safe doing in everyday life or mainstream queer spaces.

What?

When people face queerphobia, transphobia and racism collectively, it can be difficult to form positive relationships to their bodies. For some, dance offers a way to work through those difficult feelings.

Anyway, we need $1500. And shouldn’t you have made a start on that wall by now? Demand No. 5:

Write a public accountability Statement outlining the harm the EPFS has caused the QTIBPOC community and a public commitment to rectifying this harm. This statement will be publicly released with this document by the EPFS.

You, the relatively normal people who were previously minding your own business when we showed up, must release a public statement denouncing yourselves.

We appreciate that the EPFS agreed to meet our demands in 2018. However, there is still some public confusion about your stance on supporting QTIBPOC communities. Our demand is that the EPSF writes a public accountability statement about the harm that the EPFS has caused QTIBPOC+ communities, and also about their commitment towards change.

But don’t forget the twenty grand each we asked for earlier. Demand No. 6:

Feature Shades of Colour and RaricaNow on the front four pages of the Pride Guide.

All your newspapers are belong to us. Demand 7:

Work with RaricaNow to support QTIBPOC refugees and newcomers. Provide resources in writing support letters when necessary, and make a public commitment to centre these communities.

Thought you’d joined Pride to mix it up with like-minded gay folk? Think again: you’re now in the refugee business. Little wonder the organisers decided to pull the plug on the whole thing. Here’s what the mayor said:

The mayor said he’s heard of Pride organizations in other cities encountering similar situations.

“This is not something limited to the city of Edmonton. We understand Pride organizations are encountering challenges around North America, with increasing complexity and what does it mean to be inclusive to everybody.

“I have sympathy for the Pride board and the challenges that they faced trying to figure out how to create an event that is welcoming to everyone, which is the spirit of Pride, that’s its heritage.”

In other words, the tiny minority of intersectional headcases are ruining it for everyone everywhere.

Iveson said it’s not really the city’s place to step in and either mediate the dispute or organize the event itself.

Which is the mayor’s way of backing away slowly, very slowly. I’ve said many times before that gays will rue the day they appended the T to LGB and hooked their campaign wagons together. Although the way the gay lobby works these days, e.g. hounding Colorado bakers to the Supreme Court, my sympathy is limited.

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44 thoughts on “Pride and Prejudice

  1. …festival organizers wrote about a heated meeting last week between EPFS members and other LGBTQ+ groups called Shades of Colour, which advocates…

    …a group that promotes human rights for LGBTIQ+ refugees and newcomers…

    …wall listing the names of LGBTIQ2S+ lives lost including…

    Jeez, can’t even read through a blog post without the list growing significantly!

    What the hell is 2S ?
    On second thoughts, I don’t want to know.

  2. “Often, the knowledge we’re desperately seeking isn’t here yet, and can only be found outside of Edmonton”.

    Does anyone else see a three month fact finding mission to a Caribbean island at the height of winter for these poor, persecuted people? Every year?

    Colour me cynical, if you like but it makes our politicians look like models of probity.

  3. You will be amused, but not in the least surprised to find an almost identical situation for the Auckland Pride Parade.

    I’ll give you one of the better quotes:

    “We left when the old gay amputee tried to punch the young trans [person],” remarked Campbell Parker, 41, after the Grey Lynn Pride General Meeting in November last year. “It obviously wasn’t going to get much better.”

  4. Apparently the 2S stands for Two Spirit.

    I’ve found this, that doesn’t really make it that much clearer:

    While the term Two Spirit was coined in 1990 In Winnipeg, Canada as a means of unifying various gender identities and expressions of Native American/First Nations/Indigenous individuals, the term is not a specific definition of gender, sexual orientation or other self-determining catch-all phrase, but rather an umbrella term.

    Two Spirit people have both a male and female spirit within them and are blessed by their Creator to see life through the eyes of both genders.

  5. While the term Two Spirit was coined in 1990 In Winnipeg, Canada as a means of unifying various gender identities and expressions of Native American/First Nations/Indigenous individuals

    This is Daniel Ream’s neck of the woods. Maybe he can provide some clarity?

  6. “said a funding and volunteer deficit”

    Translation: Corporates quite like the gays. Pink pound, the rest of the public are generally OK with the gays too. But corporates want to fund a positive celebration, not agit prop or trans.

  7. “…the relatively normal people who were previously minding your own business when we showed up…”

    Is a public- and corporate-funded parade of gayness through the centre of town really “minding one’s own business”?

    Bearing in mind that the original rationale for pride parades was to protest against gay mistreatment, what exactly is the point of a Pride parade today?

    I don’t know all the relevant history, but I do have to wonder if organised gay isn’t getting a taste of its own medicine here. What was GLAAD like around the negotiating table back in the day?

  8. I do like the Mayor’s approach here… a dignified exit from the madness, hopefully to focus on more important matters. If I could use the gif of Homer Simpson melting back into the hedge, I would.

  9. Is a public- and corporate-funded parade of gayness through the centre of town really “minding one’s own business”?

    No, but these things are relative. It’s a good point.

  10. If I could use the gif of Homer Simpson melting back into the hedge, I would.

    That’s exactly what I had in mind too.

  11. Isn’t “two spirit” in conflict with the principle that you can only have one identity, that it is (with the exception of gender, which you may choose freely and change at will) indelibly chosen for you at birth, by which you must be defined rather than defining as an individual, and that, while your identity may be at an intersection of victim groups (gay black transman) appropriating an identity that is not pre-approved for you is wrong?

  12. Why should anyone be so “proud” of their sexual preferences that they parade through the streets? I guess that if one really had to work for years to transform themselves into someone who can put up with intimacy with other blokes, then brief self-congratulation might be in order. Otherwise, go home and do what you want to do, and stop making such an almighty fuss.

  13. I seem to dimly remember a 2 Spirit crossdressing Indian character in film made in the early 1970’s starring Dustin Hoffman called Little Big Man,quite a good film but little known.

  14. “I do like the Mayor’s approach here… a dignified exit from the madness, hopefully to focus on more important matters. If I could use the gif of Homer Simpson melting back into the hedge, I would.”

    Disagree. To my mind it’s an abdication of leadership and rather typical of women in power, Maggie Thatcher (PBUH) excepted. So while an obvious shake down of a previously protected species goes on, one where it should be obvious to anyone who isn’t mentally challenged where right and wrong lie, an opportunity to push back on the idiocy is once again allowed to pass. Maybe someone else will deal with it, possibly/probably in a more confrontational if not violent fashion. But hey, mayor’s hands will be clean.

    Ah, rereading it looks like the mayor is a “man”. Not sure where I got the wrong impression.

  15. Surely there is a reasonable amount of simple physical work to organize such an event. The organizers should have offered the shakedown artists the opportunity to earn the $1500, maybe even the option to earn the 20K over the next 10 years.

  16. The organizers should have offered the shakedown artists the opportunity to earn the $1500, maybe even the option to earn the 20K over the next 10 years.

    I reckon the organisers should have caved into the demands just for the pure comedy value. Hell, if the resulting event was on Pay-per-View, I’d cough up. Not that it would ever fly because, as you note, putting these things together takes work and effort and this lot seem to think yelling insults at people constitutes work. You could also bet if every demand was met the shakedown artists would themselves engage in bitter infighting over what to do with the cash.

  17. Brilliant fisking TM….. I had to check the date to be sure it wasn’t April Fools (*)

    (*) Doh. That’s the taxpayer…

  18. That was an epic post and its made my day somewhat brighter as its always nice to know there are people so fucked up out there that on my worst day I’m amazingly normal.

  19. You are sure this isn’t a clever ploy by the Keep The Streets Clear Of Shirtlifters Underground?

    And

    ” I’ve said many times before that gays will rue the day they appended the T to LGB and hooked their campaign wagons together.”

    Yeah. And that they appended the B, as well. Known quite a lot of bi’s of both sexes and never met any that seemed to think they belonged to a group of anything. It’s an adjective not a noun. The sort of people might “identify” as B have deep personal problems other than their sexuality.

  20. The sort of people might “identify” as B have deep personal problems other than their sexuality.

    It’s funny you should say that, and I’ve never really thought about it before, but the one person I’ve met who was bi-sexual had serious personality disorders.

  21. One of your best Tim, thanks.

    This line cracked me up:

    The only bit of that I recognise is the navigating race, but why they don’t just call it orienteering like everyone else I don’t know.

  22. Reading this clutch of ravings demands puts me in mind of ‘Riders on the Storm’:
    There’s a jackass* on the road
    his brain is squirming like a toad

    *slight adaptation to the current situation.

    My sympathy is severely limited however (actually my Give-a-Damn meter has wrapped the needle around the zero peg). The ‘Pride’ organizers are , in essence, being told to ‘bake the damn cake’.

    *Yawn*

  23. The other thing that strikes me is that the ability to concoct this bilge doesn’t occur naturally, it’s a learned behavior.

    Just imagine the venue wherein one is taught this crap. Only Dante on really bad acid could do it justice.

  24. “The ‘Pride’ organisers are , in essence, being told to ‘bake the damn cake’.”

    A very good point! Bet they wouldn’t appreciate it being pointed out though……..

  25. This is Daniel Ream’s neck of the woods. Maybe he can provide some clarity?

    Moscow is closer to Paris than Edmonton is to where I live. But that’s Canada for you. All geography and no people.

    The thing to remember about these issues in Canada is that we don’t have very many black people, and the ones we do have are mostly very recent arrivals. We just don’t have any kind of history of deep-rooted cultural white-on-black racism the way the US does, nor any history of colonizing foreign countries the way the UK does.

    What we do have is Indians[1], and all the racial issues the US has with blacks, we have with our Indian population. Arguably worse, because as late as the late 1970s the government was still engaged in some pretty horrible if arguably well-intentioned oppression of them (Google for “Canada residential schools”).

    As a result of a pretty effective multi-generational campaign to exterminate Indian culture and language and the current well-deserved guilt over that, we have a zeitgeist in Canada where the Indians don’t know anything more about their historical culture than the rest of us, but the activists have learned that slapping “Indian”[2] on just about anything gets instant deference from the rest of Canada, because pointing out that they just made that up, or they’ve taken some bit of modern culture and tarted it up with Indian mystic tropes, will be met with accusations that we’re devaluing and destroying their culture. Again.

    So to answer the actual question, “Two Spirited” just means ‘bi’. (Or at least it used to, now it’s morphing a bit to include trans). But it’s Indian bi, which is different from white people’s bi. And better. Because Indian. And spiritual. Essentially if you apply the “Cherokee hair tampons” episode of South Park to all racial politics in Canada you won’t go too far wrong.

    [1] Oh, fuck whatever politically correct term I’m supposed to be using this week. And as an amateur historian, I fully agree that ‘Indians’ is just plain incorrect. I’ve just stopped caring.
    [2] Or whatever.

  26. As far as the actual topic, this isn’t a new phenomenon in Canada. A couple of years ago the Toronto Pride Parade was shut down by Black Lives Matter goons who managed to successfully get the Metro Toronto PD ousted from marching in/supporting the event. Since the Metro Toronto PD has had a lengthy history of nasty homophobic persecution, getting them onside with Pride years ago was a big PR coup and went a long way towards maintaining good relations between the gay community and the cops.

    The fact that Canada has simply never had a white-on-black or cop-on-black racism problem worth mentioning makes the whole thing much more silly, and BLM earned themselves a lot of scorn. You don’t hear much from them these days.

    But as I just mentioned, we do have Indians here, and they’ve figured out the tactic works if its wielded by the right people.

    Kudos to Pride Edmonton and the mayor for their Solomonic response.

  27. This 2 Spirit stuff sounds an awful lot like Multiple Personality Disorder…

  28. BLM earned themselves a lot of scorn. You don’t hear much from them these days.

    Not since their patron left the White House.

  29. Moscow is closer to Paris than Edmonton is to where I live. But that’s Canada for you.

    I could have assigned the task to Howard Roark in Portland, but he’s got enough local weirdos to contend with.

  30. All those demands reminded me that we used to have a phrase for this: Give ‘e and inch and they’ll take a mile.

  31. Upon inspection by Shades of Colour and RaricaNow, applicants will be either permitted or denied entry.

    That one sentence sums up the problem – tolerant, inclusive Left destroys again.

    It’s meant to be a fun celebration, not a political demonstration.

    imo glad it’s cancelled, it’s outdated and should not receive taxpayer subsidy – cancel Notting Hill CrimeFest too.

    YT search: Edmonton Pride

    2nd result:

    Timcast Far Left Protesters Force Another Pride Event To Shut Down

  32. “I’ve said many times before that gays will rue the day they appended the T to LGB and hooked their campaign wagons together. “

    I don’t think it’s that. Queer politics is something the far left thinks it owns.

    As a result, they’ve been fighting over and stacking various ‘pride’ events since they first came into existence.

  33. It’s meant to be a fun celebration, not a political demonstration.

    Pride is explicitly political. It always has been. From the beginning it’s been about shoving queerness in the face of the mainstream, forcing the punters to notice and acknowledge the existence of the gay people around them (“We’re here! We’re queer! Get used to it!”). There’s more than a little whiff of hedonistic exhibitionism to the whole thing, too: that point could be made without the nudity, public sex acts and fetish gear, but they want to shock the bourgeoisie.

    The problem now is that nobody’s shocked by any of this any more – people bring their elementary-school-aged kids to these things in Canada, ffs – so it’s just become a whiter Caribana, much to the organizers’ chagrin.

  34. That reminds me on a bit in the Simpsons where they’re watching a Gay Proide parade.

    Camp guy on float: “We’re here! We’re queer! Get used to it!”

    Lisa: “You say that every year! We ARE used to it!”

    Camp guy on float: “SPOILSPORT!”

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  36. I am a lifelong homosexualist (definitely not one of the QWERTYs) and would happily see every last one of these degenerate ingrates put up against a wall.

  37. I am a lifelong homosexualist (definitely not one of the QWERTYs) and would happily see every last one of these degenerate ingrates put up against a wall.

    It appears I’ve got a handful of gay readers. I think I’m entitled to a Diversity in Blogging award.

  38. Nah Tim. I expect your gay readers (self included) are outliers themselves, having excluded themselves from the 1% by refusing to indulge in the camp awfulness and degeneracy which “Pride” has become. The last Pride march I attended was the London one in 1993 and that was quite enough. I mentioned this the other day to my current partner and he simply said “That was before I was born”. I pleaded the 5th Amendment after that. 🙂

    The LGBT++ bullshit is little more than a tired meme. It kinda worked when going up against Section 28, but in the modern environment of trans-exclusionary split-hairism it is utter garbage.

    Sure us fags have sought joint cause with they dykes on a political platform, but it’s a bit like the Tories and Labour joining forces on the EU Referendum “Better off In” (or whatever it is called), we basically have little common ground other than the persecution we were fighting against at the time and both fags and dykes consider bi’s “suspect”.

    LGBTIQ2S+? – Fucking errant nonsense.

  39. I expect your gay readers (self included) are outliers themselves,

    Most probably. I’ve noticed they don’t make it the be-all and end-all of their entire identity and existence, which makes a refreshing change from those with prominent public profiles.

  40. It appears I’ve got a handful of gay readers. I think I’m entitled to a Diversity in Blogging award

    From comments, also a handful of TS/TV readers who are not radical hatemongers, but live a quiet, albeit not 100% ‘normal’, life.

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