Tommy Robinson and Jacob Rees-Mogg

In the comments beneath my post on Tommy Robinson’s arrest, Bloke in North Dorset heaves to for a moment and writes this:

That said, I’m not convinced by your revolution argument. I’ll believe it when a V type movement happens and first 20 people turn up and start filming and get arrested and then 50 ……. If you really want to support Tommy and start the revolution that’s how it’s done, not throwing £20 in to a kitty.

It’s a fair comment, and I should clarify. I don’t believe we are on the cusp of a revolution, but I do believe the foundations of what could become a revolution are being laid in earnest. My point about throwing £20 in the kitty wasn’t to suggest the population is about to stage an uprising, which is why I specifically kept it as a thought experiment. Instead, I was suggesting that if and when somebody decides to start pushing back in earnest, they will be able to count on a lot of tacit support. Every revolt is dependent on thousands of anonymous hands placing small notes in hats, and also people keeping schtum and refusing to criticise the revolutionaries. Even as little as five years ago I don’t think the likes of Tommy Robinson could have counted on much support, but things have changed drastically. Flicking through social media I get the impression that were Robinson to come to harm in jail and the sentencing judge later found in a ditch with his throat cut, a substantial chunk of the population would simply say nothing. Again, I don’t think this will happen but if it did, I don’t think everyone would be as outraged as the chattering classes.

But Bloke in North Dorset is right in one sense. At this point Tommy Robinson is pretty much alone in willing to stick his neck out, despite all the support he has. As such, he’s easy for the authorities to intimidate, arrest, and imprison. If things are going to change we’d need to see ten, a hundred, or a thousand of him and I really don’t see where such men are going to come from. But then again, once the conditions are laid down people do tend to pop up out of nowhere to seize the moment as the government of the day blunders about swinging haymakers and catching air. History is full of such examples, and in hindsight events always unfold more slowly than appears at the time.

Streetwise Professor makes a similar point here:

Perhaps surprisingly, the person this tweet made me think of was Jacob Rees-Mogg. A lot of people are fervently hoping he will run for leader of the Conservatives and become Prime Minister.  From what I’ve seen of him there is much to like: he’s knowledgeable, intelligent, unflappable, polite, and principled. The problem is, like Tommy Robinson, there’s only one of him. If Britain is going to advance in the direction many of us want it to, the likes of Rees-Mogg should be what’s expected of all MPs. Instead, he stands out like a Welshman in a Champions League final alongside mediocrities such as Theresa May and Amber Rudd and opposite actual dunces like Corbyn and Abbott. It says something about the state of British politics that not only does a man who is capable of expressing his thoughts clearly and accurately hold novelty value, but turns a lot of people off for the same reasons. I come back to my long-held conviction that a population gets the leaders it deserves.

There’s probably not much Tommy Robinson and Jacob Rees-Mogg have in common, although there is no shortage of dimwits who would describe both as “far right”. However, they share the same burden of representing many people’s hopes while being utterly alone in doing so. That will have to change before Britain does.

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16 thoughts on “Tommy Robinson and Jacob Rees-Mogg

  1. “The problem is, like Tommy Robinson, there’s only one of him.”

    A far greater problem is that that ‘long march through the institutions’ has nearly ended. What can he do now, to stem that tide?

  2. But then again, once the conditions are laid down people do tend to pop up out of nowhere to seize the moment …

    I think “the moment” for most people will be a sense of certainty that at some point they will be arrested anyway, so might as well make a stand than get picked off one by one.

    That said, being arrested now is not just losing one’s freedom. It’s being incarcerated with a lot of violent men who want you dead, and an officialdom which is already writing poignant speeches expressing their sincere regret.

  3. That said, being arrested now is not just losing one’s freedom. It’s being incarcerated with a lot of violent men who want you dead, and an officialdom which is already writing poignant speeches expressing their sincere regret.

    Indeed, and it’s probably a matter of time before US-style Aryan gangs start forming in British prisons to protect people from the jihadist gangs.

  4. A massive purge is needed including the mass sacking of the Senior Civil Service. It could be done by a determined leader. But where and how to find one such.

    The choice is merely coming down to alternate tyrannies.

    ZaNu with Venez-style marxism shot thro’ with the Shite Ripple of cultural marxism.

    Or womiccumalobus BluLabour style (middle-class cultural marxist )tyranny.

    The Fish Faced Cow has already stated her intent to push thro’ or allow to happen the following:

    * Islamic blasphemy law with up to 6 years jail for defiance
    * Revision of the 2004 Gender Act to enshrine Marxist subjectivist evil in law
    * Her plan to insure Tory Party members have absolutely zero say about anything within the party. I wonder if poor Theo will still pay his dues then. Talk about “my Dad voted Labour.”
    * Control over the Internet greater than China’s. To keep us safe. The us being political scum and the safety being no viewpoint allowed except their cultural Marxist crap.
    * Plans to criminalise those who say nasty things to political pork. Since there are already laws against abuse –ie calling her a FFC in a personal letter rather than on a public forum or suggesting that the kids (she doesn’t have anyway) should suffer something horrible etc. Thus we know that the “abuse” she refers to is someone writing to tell her–entirely correctly–that she is a disgrace to her office and should resign at once.

    In short the vile hag is trying to create a world in which political scum can do as they like and punish anyone who tries to stand up to them in any way whatsoever.

    Given a choice we might as well have a ZaNu collapse. At least socialism won’t escape blame.

    Still we must keep fighting–the scum haven’t won yet.

  5. When Mr Ecks scenario comes about that is when the protests become violent and nationalistic reprisals start to unfold and civil war becomes inevitable. There are many members of the police and armed forces who at this moment have not had to pick sides, but it will come.

  6. Indeed, and it’s probably a matter of time before US-style Aryan gangs start forming in British prisons to protect people from the jihadist gangs.

    Which means that the opposition to Islamization will gradually gravitate towards being race-based. This will be an unfortunate development.

  7. This will be an unfortunate development.

    Indeed, which is why the politicians that have brought it about are so staggeringly irresponsible.

  8. “There’s probably not much Tommy Robinson and Jacob Rees-Mogg have in common”

    What they do have in common, along with Farage, Trump and Johnson is that they are not the usual colourless, faceless, cowardly, toadying non-entities who populate most of politics.

    They often appeal on a human level to people who would disagree with them on some, or many, issues.
    For example, I’m not religious at all but I admire Rees-Mogg’s honesty about his beliefs. At least you know where you stand with him, unlike, say, the slimy Blair.
    A lot of commentators think that Rees-Mogg wouldn’t get much support from voters because of his background but I think they underestimate how much the public don’t care about that if they like more important qualities.

    The BBC/Guardian/Labour types made the mistake of thinking that the general public had the same prejudices that they do and if they kept banging on about Trump, Johnson and Farage’s backgrounds the rest of the population would be as simplistically revolted by them as they were. They got it badly wrong. They might well be making the same mistake over Mogg.

  9. There’s a chance now that the Italian people will show the UK the way.

  10. TMB–I hope so.

    This President Takeover bullshit should get that Italian hot blood flowing.

    The sheer bare-faced cheek of the EU cunts staggers the mind.

  11. Unfortunately Jacob Rees-Mogg is showing every sign of bottling it.

    I don’t think he’d be a good Prime Minister in the current environment. It would basically be him heading a cabinet of slippery, back-stabbing, intellectual pygmies. I’d prefer to see him stay on the back-benches until such time there are more like him. He can’t do much on his own.

  12. “I don’t think he’d be a good Prime Minister in the current environment”

    Aren’t they grooming Sajid Javid for the role.

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