Foreign Interference

I’ve written about London-based Irishman Daragh McDowell before. Here he is on the subject of the Irish abortion referendum:

Now here he is on Brexit:

And:

So here we have an Irishman who, presumably, couldn’t find a job in Dublin so came to London where he mouths off about the stupidity of Brexit and how it ought to be overturned, while smugly telling Irishmen who voted to keep existing abortion laws to get with the new program.

Between this and the anti-British remarks coming from the Dublin government, particularly over the NI border and the Good Friday Agreement, I think there’s an argument the Irish should be treated the same as any other foreigner in the UK. They keep telling us how proud they are of their independence; perhaps it’s time we held them to that.

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18 thoughts on “Foreign Interference

  1. Am I right in thinking that once here (without any limitations on how or when) they automatically get treated like a UK citizen?

  2. I believe so, under some agreement from 1922. They are even permitted to vote.

  3. As da yoof say: WTF!

    So Ireland isn’t really independent. They pretend to be but when they want they are not!

    Interesting concept. Does it work in reverse? When I go to Dublin?

  4. So Ireland isn’t really independent. They pretend to be but when they want they are not!

    “The Irish are the Quebeckers of the world, my son.”

  5. Ending the Common Travel Area and abolishing the noblesse oblige of empire would be the best thing to happen to Irish governance in a hundred odd years.

    Every time the Irish state and its enablers in the electorate have commited self inflicted economic hari-kari since 1922. The UK has been there as an emigration relief valve.
    Any one who could, GTFO and their remittances dampened down the political backlash to yet another cock-up. (they are going gung-ho on Celtic Tiger II right now), as a bonus, when you emigrated you lost your right to vote and have your say against the perpetrators of yet a.n other disasterous set of policies which paid off one set of insiders at the expense of everyone else.

    Terminating the CTA is long overdue. It will force accountability down the throats of the gombeen men sat in Leinster house.

  6. ….under some agreement from 1922. They are even permitted to vote.

    In that case someone should find something in the Republic of Ireland Act 1948 that is grounds for declaring Irish are foreigners.

  7. End the CTA. Hard border between NI and the Republic. Anyone who doesn’t like that is welcome to campaign peacefully for a united Ireland. As I understand it the majority is in favour in the Republic, so they just need to persuade a majority in NI.

    Anyone who wants to campaign violently is welcome to be shot in the face.

  8. Every time the Irish state and its enablers in the electorate have commited self inflicted economic hari-kari since 1922. The UK has been there as an emigration relief valve.

    Indeed:

  9. Anyone who wants to campaign violently is welcome to be shot in the face.

    Indeed, one of the many failings of May is her complete silence in the face of open threats from the Irish to return to violence if they don’t get their way on the NI border. She should make it abundantly clear that Britain doesn’t take kindly to being threatened.

  10. This is slightly off topic but I have long pondered the relationship of Britain with the Commonwealth and, if we treat Ireland like a part of the Commonwealth (they WERE part of Britain until they achieved their independence in 1922) Southern Ireland/Eire.

    I think that it is time for Britain to leave the Commonwealth and disassociate itself from the rules and “benefits” that Commonwealth citizens enjoy when they come to the UK. If the Commonwealth wants to carry on, then that’s up to them But Brexit from that organisation is tempting.

    Since Britain would then be an independent country (for example, like Japan) Commonwealth citizens would have no right of entry, no right to vote etc. This would also include Ireland – after all, they left in December 1922, over 95 years ago so any residual obligations etc. are surely discharged long since. Similarly, India, Pakistan and all the rest should be treated like any other country, requiring visas and all the restrictions that a non commonwealth citizen would require before entry to Britain.

    There is no benefit to Britain to maintain the Commonwealth and to continue to allow unfettered access to Britain of people with no loyalty, affection for or kinship with Britain. Without question, maintaining these links severely disbenefits Britain.

    It won’t solve the problem of the ones already here but would send out a clear message. And without voting rights etc. would slightly tilt the balance back towards the British people.

  11. This would also include Ireland – after all, they left in December 1922, over 95 years ago so any residual obligations etc. are surely discharged long since.

    Indeed, and I think the aftermath of the Brexit negotiations, taking into account how the Irish have behaved during them, is a perfect time to look into revising this.

  12. Ireland was the first colony.

    I am really surprised that some folk think that Brexit still has legs.

  13. If you think the British Leave voters are going to just forget about Brexit then you are mistaken. You’ll sooner get a baby out of a pitbull’s mouth than get them to ignore the referendum result. Yet the same is true of the Establishment’s determination to ignore the referendum. That is why so many people are predicting serious trouble ahead.

  14. Not saying the the leave voters will forget about Brexit, just saying that it is over.

  15. “Similarly, India, Pakistan and all the rest should be treated like any other country, requiring visas and all the restrictions that a non commonwealth citizen would require before entry to Britain.”

    I’m pretty sure most commonwealth citizens do require visas before entering the UK, and am almost certain citizens of India & Pakistan do (just like UK citizens require a visa vice versa).

    On the subject of the Oirish, I personally don’t mind them having visa free right of travel or right of settlement in the UK as they largely share the same culture and values as us. However, I am surprised to hear that they get the right to vote, access to the NHS etc. They got their independence almost a century ago & should be left to stand on their own two feet (as a Scotsman, I have to be careful here though as if the SNP delinquents get their way, we could be heading in the same direction).

  16. I can’t believe people were too stupid to vote the correct way in the Brexit referendum, we should do it again as the consequences here of these fucking idiots voting the wrong way are just too grave. Democracy has its limits.

    What a fine day for democracy as the people of Ireland speak with one voice and demand an end to the draconian abortion laws, pity a few idiots voted the other way. God I love democracy.

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