The Undoing of Rose McGowan

It was the New York Times interview with the actress Rose McGowan that first brought Harvey Weinstein’s behaviour to the attention of the general public last October (it was common knowledge in Hollywood circles). This is why I had a vague idea who she was when I saw the video below, filmed during a book signing at a Barnes & Noble in New York:

The person who yelled at her is a transsexual woman who appears to have a rather dubious history of her own. Naturally, this being 2018, the organisers of the women’s march, the event where deranged women turn up in DC wearing pussy hats to scream en masse at Trump, have denounced McGowan and she is now becoming persona non grata:

So last week McGowan was a feminist heroine, a survivor of sexual assault and leading the fight against the Patriarchy. But having not taken any shit from a bloke in women’s clothes who stood up and abused her at her book signing, she’s now an outcast.

Here’s my view: these people are fucking insane. I have some sympathy with McGowan – the lunatic who accosted her should have been turfed out on her ear – but look at her reaction and overall demeanor, best seen in this video shot shortly after the incident:

She’s turned up to a book signing wearing what looks like gym kit, or an outfit she loafs around her flat in. She’s slouched in her chair able only to express anger littered with profanity, coming across as a moody adolescent who’s decided to copy TV portrayals of ghetto thugs when telling her parents she doesn’t want to clean her room. And people actually turned up to listen to this?

People are tempted to point to Harvey Weinstein and say this is what is wrong with Hollywood. Alas, I think the problems go way deeper, and have spilled over into whole swathes of the media and even politics. It is quite something to watch whole swathes of an advanced country go collectively insane.

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17 thoughts on “The Undoing of Rose McGowan

  1. “And people actually turned up to listen to this?”

    It’s worse. People actually turned up to shout “We love you!” as she had a tantrum.

    What I found particularly interesting is the way in which, once the penile amputee had been removed, McGowan continued to work herself up into a worse frenzy, aided only by her vague memories of pop psychology phrases.

    As you say, insanity.

  2. We are blessed to be alive at this point in time, the precise moment that Cultural Marxism eats itself as it is forced to confront its illogical hierarchy of victimhood.

    Cognitive dissonance occurs at the moment an irrefutable fact meets your previous world view. There’s suddenly a lot of it about.

    Popcorn futures are going to the moon.

  3. “once the penile amputee had been removed”

    Possibly so, but some say that there are transies who opt to keep their lower equipment (even if not fully functioning) in case they change their mind later. After all, it is a woman’s prerogative to change her mind, right?

  4. Watcher:
    “some say that there are transies who opt to keep their lower equipment (even if not fully functioning) in case they change their mind later. After all, it is a woman’s prerogative to change her mind, right?”

    Excellent! There needs to be a law to stop this sort of thing. A fourteen-day cooling-off period, then off it comes, you get your certificate and a copy of the waiver, and are shown the door.

  5. The words “batshit” and “crazy” spring to mind for both Ms. McGowan and the tranny.

  6. Here’s my view: these people are fucking insane

    Yes, but she wasn’t dropped for being insane. She simply only believes in 99% of the same things they do, whereas they thought she believed in 100% of it last week. 99% is zero to them.

    Crazed zealots doesn’t even come close.

  7. Her behaviour is entirely consistent with someone who was sexually abused repeatedly at a young age. She is in fact literally insane, in the sense that she’s suffering from a Cluster B Personality Disorder derived from complex PTSD.

    That’s why I’m not ready to jump on the bandwagon condemning her. This isn’t exactly laudatory behaviour she’s engaging in, and she should be getting therapy for her issues, but it’s unfair to casually dismiss her behaviour as “loony”.

  8. Some (possibly many) of them were, yes. Unfortunately, there’s also a lot of them who weren’t but who have appropriated the language and tropes of PTSD (“triggering”, “safe spaces”, “empowerment” etc.) because they’re weaponizing victimhood for their own manipulative ends. Laurie Penny is one of those.

    On the surface they look very similar, but once you know what to look for it’s easy to distinguish the truly damaged people from the poseurs. This doesn’t mean the truly damaged ones aren’t capable of inflicting great damage in turn; it’s not a rabid dog’s fault that it’s rabid, but that doesn’t make it any safer to be around.

  9. Diagnosing why a loony is a loony doesn’t mean they aren’t a loony.

    And plenty of people have terrible experiences as children without them growing up trying to fuck everyone over. So these screaming garbage babies don’t get a hall pass from me.

  10. That’s why I’m not ready to jump on the bandwagon condemning her. This isn’t exactly laudatory behaviour she’s engaging in, and she should be getting therapy for her issues, but it’s unfair to casually dismiss her behaviour as “loony”.

    My point wasn’t so much that she’s nuts, but that she’s been plonked in the limelight time and again when she should have been getting treatment, cheered by the right-on crowd; then when another lunatic attacks her, the right-on crowd turn in her. The whole situation is insane, not just McGowan.

  11. Diagnosing why a loony is a loony doesn’t mean they aren’t a loony.

    Don’t move the goalposts; you asked whether all leftists were abused as children and I answered you. The reason it matters why someone is a loony – or pretending to be one – is it defines how best to respond to them. Rose McGowan needs intensive therapy; Laurie Penny needs a good slap upside the head and people to stop indulging her.

    And plenty of people have terrible experiences as children without them growing up trying to fuck everyone over.

    Not every child gets cancer, either, so the ones that do don’t deserve any empathy even if they act out from time to time?

    People’s susceptibility to trauma varies widely depending on how resistant their amygdala is (and interestingly, that appears to have a strong genetic component). Not everyone who falls off a roof breaks their back and ends up in a wheelchair – so the people who do don’t deserve any empathy, those whinging layabouts?

    As I said above, you can feel sorry for a rabid dog without letting it play with your children.

  12. Daniel, you said that some or most of them were abused. The ‘most’ I simply don’t believe. The ‘some’ may be true, but then the fact that so many leftists behave this way makes me think that the main cause of this behaviour is the politics, not any abuse that some of them may have suffered. And I definitely don’t want them making decisions on my behalf (we obviously agree on that.)

    I can agree that McGowan maybe needs therapy, and I do have some sympathy for her if she’s all screwed-up, but it’s limited. If she’s going around setting the world to rights then she has to take some responsibility for her own behaviour. She’s not a rabid dog. A rabid dog is completely incapable of voluntary behaviour, and has no self-control. Whereas she has enough agency to have become a successful Hollywood actress.

  13. Insane, yes. But also barbarous and uncivilized in their emotionally incontinent behaviour. Nuance, restraint, politeness, respect are all absent.

  14. But also barbarous and uncivilized in their emotionally incontinent behaviour. Nuance, restraint, politeness, respect are all absent.

    Indeed. You might as well go to the zoo soon as listen to a talk like this.

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