Why nobody cares about the Rohingyas

I’ve noticed a concerted effort on the part of the mainstream media over the past few weeks to get everyone interested in the plight of the Rohingyas, a minority Muslim group in Myanmar who are being hounded by the majority ruling Buddists.

I have also noticed that nobody seems to give a shit. It might be tempting to put this down to the fact that westerners don’t generally care about brown people being killed in far-off lands with no oil underneath, but I suspect there is something else at work as well: people in the west are getting a little bit tired of hearing how Muslims are suffering.

There is also a perception, one which is easy to understand, that various western political establishments pander too much to Muslims. Whether it be councils and police ignoring the systematic abuse of children in Rotherham, the British courts jailing a man for leaving bacon outside a mosque, Australian prime ministers taking part in Iftar suppers, newspapers promoting the likes of Linda Sarsour, or police charging people with hate crimes for making Islamaphobic comments on Twitter, there is a growing number of people in the west who believe Muslims are a minority who have got a large chunk of the state apparatus working on their behalf to the detriment of the majority. Whether this perception is valid or not scarcely matters: perceptions in themselves matter.

There is also the fact that most westerners have come to realise that nobody – least of all Muslims – give a shit if Muslims are being killed by other Muslims. The only time we get to hear about Muslims being massacred is if non-Muslims are doing it. And the last few years have also demonstrated that if Muslims are massacring non-Muslims – such as the Coptic Christians in Egypt or the Yazidi people who fell under Isis – the mainstream media and our elites aren’t much interested.

Finally, westerners have now firmly taken note of how unwilling Muslim governments, particularly those wealthy enough to buy football clubs and build skyscrapers in Europe, are to help their fellow co-religionists in their time of need.

It is therefore not very surprising that few people are showing much concern for the plight of the Rohingyas. It wasn’t always this way: back in 1999 when Serbia was persecuting the Muslim Kosovars, the western powers launched a war to protect them. This was partly to do with guilt over Screbrenica and perhaps also because it was in Europe, but also people had more sympathy for persecuted people then, Muslims or otherwise. Nowadays that sympathy has all-but evapourated. Notice how reluctant populations were to endorse their leaders’ desires to go to war in Syria, again on the pretext of protecting Muslims.

This is a situation entirely of our establishment’s making. They quite deliberately set about promoting and favouring certain minority groups in order to virtue-signal, humiliate the majority population, and further undermine the societies they detest so much. In this they have been very successful, only the side effect is now the majority are thinking far more along ethno-religious lines than they have done for decades.

It’s a pretty dismal situation, actually. By implying that Muslims in the west are fearing for their lives surrounded by Islamaphobic hordes, the media has ensured nobody is paying any attention now a Muslim group is being persecuted for real. It’s the old crying wolf once too often thing again. If every five minutes there’s a bloke on telly saying Muslims are suffering in London, New York, and Amsterdam when they’re clearly not, people will simply tune out. And when you need their attention for real, you can’t get it.

It’s probably not too much of an exaggeration to say if the Kosovo situation, or even Screbrenica, arose again today fewer people would care and intervention would be much less likely. But the real tragedy is the attitudes towards Muslims that have been brought about by the establishment’s behaviour, which continues to this day, is eventually going to make things like Screbrenica a lot more likely in future. The antipathy to the plight of the Rohingyas should be taken as a warning.

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43 thoughts on “Why nobody cares about the Rohingyas

  1. People don’t forget which side Camoron took in Syria. If it got beyond a couple of air raids, we’d have been shipping British jihadists out there as mercenaries, with training and weapons. If things had got out of hand, quite possibly installed an “interim” regime, and recognised the new entity, and called it, perhaps, “Islamic State of Syria”?

    It would have been the biggest foreign policy fuck up for at least 18 months.

  2. Right, they’re being oppressed. Never mind all the jihadi groups and their history in the region.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar

    They know that there are Islamists who want the region to secede, to be part of Bangladesh and to be Muslim. They know they are out-breeding them.

    And the Buddhists living there know from every piece of news around the world and every piece of history that this won’t then end well for them. They won’t have democracy for long, or even a reasonably OK military dictatorship. They will be driven out of their own countries or forced to submit.

    I would love to drop every bleeding heart metropolitan type in that situation and see how long it takes them to turn into Tommy Robinson.

  3. What Bloke on M4 said. This is what an actual backlash looks like.

    This is the same news cycle behaviour that we see every time Israel finally get pissed off with the constant rocket attacks and launches air strikes on Gaza. Suddenly it’s news but because there’s been little or no mention of the context and lead up, it’s just news to make Israel look mean.

  4. how unwilling Muslim governments, particularly those wealthy enough to buy football clubs and build skyscrapers in Europe, are to help their fellow co-religionists in their time of need.

    Some of this is due to the tendency of Western media et al. to simply lump all Muslims worldwide together, without bothering to understand the underlying tribal, ethnic and religious conflicts that exist in the Dar El-Islam. My lady fair and true is a Shi’a Muslim of mixed ethnic heritage and so I’ve been getting quite the education on the history of the different groups and how much they like killing each other.

  5. BoM4 +1 I read some crap by Peter Oborne recently moaning about the treatment of the Rohingyas. Don’t remember him having much to say about Muslim oppression of Christians or getting worked up about the ongoing intra-islamic slaughter that Muslims are so fond of.

    D-Ream – it’s not just that we lump all Muslims together, it’s that our great & good actively support the worst ones ie the fucking Saudis. We turn over secular strongmen and get all worked up about Iran (not that the Iranian regime is a good one, but at least they are civilised people) but kowtow to these despicable peasants. Watching Trump crawl to them made me sick and frankly cleared all notions that he might be a different sort of president.

  6. Yeah, what Bloke on M4 said. It’s clear that the Buddhists didn’t just start killing the Rohingyas for shits and giggles. And as usual, the Western media completely ignores (deliberately, or otherwise) the other sides of the story and focuses on the muslim-persecution meme. You only have to do some cursory digging on Twitter and a rather different picture emerges.

    Is what’s happening right and good? Nope, but at this point I’m all out of fucks.

  7. “Far off lands with no oil underneath”… ahem…
    https://frontiermyanmar.net/en/australias-woodside-reports-third-gas-discovery-off-rakhine-state

    This is a little away from Tims point but I’m making it anyway – the fact that the Rohingya happen to be Muslim is in some ways incidental as they are seen principally as “Bengali” by Burmese Buddhists and many Muslims alike or as worthless “Kalar” a term which basically carries the same derogatory connotations as ‘Nigger’ might in the worst possible sense; it’s can be a surprisingly racist, ethnocentric country on occasion and yet harmonious (largely) for the rest of the time.

    Bangladesh is not really bothered and Indonesia and Malaysia are only making noise as the main Islamically leaning states in the region. The big fear at the moment is either or both of:
    – Bored, trained Daesh whack jobs displaced from Syria are now undoubtedly turning their attention to Yangon/ Mandalay etc; and
    – When they are eventually successful the Ma Ba Tha right wing Buddhist nutcases will whip the youth into a frenzy and it’ll be open season on the rest of the Muslim population throughout the country, who will then try to fight back. Meiktila was basically razed to the ground in 2013 in this way after an argument over a hair clip in a jewellers – Yangon some 400km away was then on curfew for a few weeks as this inflamed tensions there. I suspect that this is currently simmering under and the state security apparatus is going to have a job keeping a lid on it without resorting to their old tactics.

  8. “back in 1999 when Serbia was persecuting the Muslim Kosovars, the western powers launched a war to protect them”

    For mine the NATO support of the KLA including bombing the fuck out of Serbia was more about them strengthening their position against Russia than protecting ethnic Albanians that were previously classified as terrorists. The overall situation down there in the nineties resulted in Russia losing a strong ally and ending up with umpteen NATO enemies, is Serbia NATO yet, I cant keep track. All done when Russia was on the ropes, a pretty clever strategic move in my books.

    As for religion what more is it than an accident of birth.

  9. I wonder whether these events will encourage the ruling group in the Philippines to keep on trying to deal violently with their Moslems? Maybe they don’t need much encouragement. Maybe for good reason: I don’t know. It’s just another of those bits of abroad that I don’t even pretend to be interested in.

  10. Stray thought: contemplating the Moslem threat, why does nobody ever say that “We’ll always have Paris” doesn’t ring true any more?

  11. Is it just me or does the concept of violent Buddhists seem strange?

    Seeing as we’re constantly reminded that Jihadi terrorism “has nothing to do with Islam”, surely we should be questioning a narrative that people who believe in ahimsa and reincarnation so deeply that they don’t eat animals, find murder morally-acceptable.

    Let’s call them sectarian mobs or something but they’re kind of missing the point if they think they’re coming back as a higher life form or reaching enlightenment any time soon.

  12. “Is it just me or does the concept of violent Buddhists seem strange?”

    It;s just you. Buddhists are quite capable of every level of human violence, just look at how many Buddhist societies are military dictatorships.

  13. Ah but it’s not Buddhists that are to blame, it’s Buddhisicists. Just as the Crusades were undertaken by Christianicists. Sauce for the goose and all that.

  14. @William of Ockham:

    “Is it just me or does the concept of violent Buddhists seem strange?”

    In theory yes. But Buddhist monks have fought in Tibet, China and Japan for at least a millennium – e.g. Benkei the famous warrior monk of the Kamakura period – and more recently the Sri Lankan war had Singhalese buddhists against the Tamil tigers

  15. @Bill

    “Is it just me or does the concept of violent Buddhists seem strange?”

    They are human and therefore prone to violence and intolerance just like everyone else, although on this occasion they seem to be the good guys. I think the Dalai Lama is a wrong un though.

    “There are a lot of people who know squat about Buddhism and perceive it to be peaceful. Buddhists can be as violent and intolerant as any other religion. Burma itself was a highly militarized state (it still is) and very aggressive. For many centuries Burma was at war with the kingdoms of Sukhothai, Ayutthaya and Siam, which later became the kingdom of Thailand. The Burmese were able to conquer the capital of Ayutthaya, burned it to the ground, destroyed all the statues of the Buddha, took the population back home as slaves and exterminated the royal family.”

    http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/09/oh-oh-oh-pity-the-poor-mohammedans/#more-43893

  16. Islamists use Bosnia as a reason TO attack the West, so why the fuck did we bother? As for Burma, zero fucks given, though it is amusing to see the aghast looks on the usual commentariat mugs who see all this happening under their darling Aung San Suu Kyi. Even Western icons sometimes have to adjust to reality.

  17. All I can add is that everyone involved – Muslim and Buddhist alike – is better off if the west continues to not give a fuck about this. Western meddling can only make things worse.

  18. I think there is something a little deeper and darker. Most westerners hope the Buddhists win this one.

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  20. I’ve worked with lots of great British guys who just happen to be Muslim, it being more of a family thing for them than anything else and “Friday Temple” being more of a tedious family chore that they do to make their parents or grand-parents happy.

    It is not these guys who are college educated, work hard and enjoy the little treats in life that we all do that are the problem, nor are they seen as the face of the modern British Muslim.

    The reality is that the picture postcard British newspaper “Muslim” if you like is the ignorant recent immigrant living in one of the ghettos of Bradford, Luton, Bolton et al, practicing polygamy on the sly with one “official” wife and up to 3 other single mothers that just happen to share the same house together.

    Mohammed (because they’re all Mohammed or some variant thereof aren’t they?), doesn’t work not because of his functional illiteracy, low IQ or inherent bone-idleness. No, Mohammed doesn’t work because he is beloved of Allah and the British who pay for his entire lifestyle are just racist and Islamophobic.

    It doesn’t even matter that the above portrait is a stereotype, what matters is that these people do exist in substantial numbers and taxpayers (including the Muslim IT guys I work with) are sick and tired of their bullshit and subsidizing their lifestyles.

    This is why no-one gives a tinkers cuss about the Rohingya Muslims of Burma.

  21. I found it interesting that the BBC has a little comment at the end of the usual sob story pointing out an attack by the muslims that killed quite a few policemen, appears to have caused the present violence.

    It appears that the Buddhists are not into hash tags, flowers and teddy bears, as a way of commemorating the murder of policemen. Perhaps we have something to learn?

  22. This is a primarily ethnic conflict though I believe – it’s not as if it’s all the muslims in Burma being persecuted, and the Rohingya are basically looked down on by everybody (including the Bangladeshis) – note the total lack of noticable mosques, which suggests none of their richer Muslim regional neighbours wish to fund them. I am mystified why every news report feels the need to say the Rohingya are Muslim – it’s not as if the Americans are described as ‘mainly Christian, albeit of questionable commitment, Americans’. Indeed, I’ve never heard the Saudis described as ‘Muslim Saudis’, so why this particular description is necessary I don’t know. My best guess would be that it’s the only thing about hte Rohingya that the journalists know

  23. Going back to Tim’s point about the media, especially the BBC. Part of their problem is they have spent years carrying out the Buddhist equivalent of beatifying Aung San Suu Kyi and now she’s turned out be just like any other leader in the region who is more interested in power than human rights, especially those of minority Muslims.

    She’s even been awarded the Nobel Peace Price and no end of other intentional peace and democracy awards.

  24. Muslims get devoted proctosculation from the media and the left when they’re actively harming somebody the media and the left want to see harmed.

    Not the case here, so no issue. Nobody gives a damn about muslims in the Philippines either.

  25. @John – “No, Mohammed doesn’t work because he is beloved of Allah and the British who pay for his entire lifestyle”

    I think that it is unfair to single out Moslem birds as being the only victims of the social problems caused by chronic welfare dependency that rewards them for producing millions of future unemployed criminals. This type of global social engineering equally applies to all faiths and races in its perpetual war against the nuclear family and doesn’t distinguish between the denim clad southern black Baptist obese nor the northern white tracksuited Christian chavette, this is a true equal opportunity program.

  26. I think it’s because they sound like the aliens out of 1970s science fiction. If they were called the Thargoids, Klingons, Golovans, or Ulru-Ujurrians, they’d fare just as badly.

  27. Muslim encroachment and effective colonisation is occurring in eastern India too. I worked with an Indian girl who described the usual illegal crossing of the border, setting up enclaves, robbery, rape and intimidation leading to violenceb(arson, no go areas for non Muslims) etc. etc. ad infinitum and the problems caused thereby.

    Naturally, Bangladesh sees this as a way of gaining territory without formal warfare and conquest with the inevitable costs and condemnation. from Bangladesh’s point of view, what’s not to like?

  28. Muslims unhappy? I’d hate to be thought completely heartless so I checked the tin marked ‘Sympathy’ in my cupboard and see that it’s empty. I don’t feel inclined to replenish it with any urgency.

  29. It’s a very similar story to the Tamil’s, the Sri Lankan’s put up with them for decades and finally just used the sledge hammer and no one much cared.

    It’s only the Palestinian’s who seem to get any great traction, and I’ve always just assumed it’s simply because it’s Jew’s dishing it out.

  30. Listening to R2 this morning, and ‘Thought for the Day’ came up, with one of the usual thoroughly PC vicars wittering on about Tolkien quotes, and mentioning two terrible events for people to think about.

    You guessed it, the first was ‘the plight of the Rohingyas’, while the second was…Hurricane Irma.

    The conflation of a severe weather event & a human dispute over territory escaped me.

  31. I think it’s because they sound like the aliens out of 1970s science fiction. If they were called the Thargoids, Klingons, Golovans, or Ulru-Ujurrians, they’d fare just as badly.

    Heh!

  32. Some of this is due to the tendency of Western media et al. to simply lump all Muslims worldwide together, without bothering to understand the underlying tribal, ethnic and religious conflicts that exist in the Dar El-Islam.

    There are few more ignorant or condescending than liberals taking up the cause of an oppressed minority group.

  33. Far off lands with no oil underneath”… ahem…

    Nobody cares about gas, mate. Get with the programme!

    Meiktila was basically razed to the ground in 2013 in this way after an argument over a hair clip in a jewellers

    I heard it was over a bottomless hash run by someone in a “20 mins without LTI” t-shirt with a green and white flag on.

  34. I am mystified why every news report feels the need to say the Rohingya are Muslim

    Because the media seem to have got it into their heads that Muslims everywhere are an oppressed minority and western populations ought to be sympathetic to their plight. Whoever their lobbyists are, they’re doing a fine job.

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  36. Guess who cares, or at least cared for a few days?

    Blimey. Who knows what goes through that fellow’s mind?

  37. Who knows what goes through that fellow’s mind?

    Sending a message, perhaps: he can mobilize pretty large groups of people in Moscow, not just in Grozny, on short notice and a flimsy pretext (I bet ninety percent of the protesters at the Burmese embassy had learned about the country’s Muslims the day before).

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