Fleeing the Trumpocaust

Having failed to find any normal, functioning Americans who wanted to leave the US following Trump’s election at their first attempt, the BBC has another go:

Following one of the most divisive US elections in recent history, following on the heels of the similarly divisive vote for Brexit in the UK, we asked if people were making plans to leave the country because of the uncertainty and political climate. Our question was met with hundreds of compelling, sometimes polarising and often worried responses.

Hundreds of compelling responses? Let’s bear that in mind as we peruse those that the BBC believes are the most compelling.

“On November 9th I met with a lawyer and began the process of applying for residency in Spain. My wife is an EU citizen and I don’t foresee our family returning to the US,” wrote Jonathan Allen.  “It breaks my heart.”

So not an all-American family, then.

Marie-Denise Jolie has firm and imminent plans. “Moving to Canada on 8 Feb 2016. I am born and raised in [the] US, even served in [the] US Army, but have dual citizenship because one parent is Canadian. I never expected to move to Canada but I just can not stay here and I doubt I will be back other than short visits.

This one is American, but appears to be going alone.

“We are a gay couple, and had been planning on a wedding in June,” wrote Jim Brunk. But instead, the couple planned to file their marriage license in late January. “My partner is HIV positive and Jewish. Three strikes against us here in the newly forming Republic.

Somebody is looking for a residency visa when HIV positive? Good luck with that: most countries require you to have an HIV test when applying for residency, and they generally prefer it to come back negative. Countries such as Canada, for example.

“Not sure where we will end up, perhaps Canada.

Oh. Somebody hasn’t done their homework, have they?

“Not sure where we will end up, perhaps Canada. I am Mennonite and will be contacting Mennonite Central Committee to see how they can help us gain entry into Canada.”

I confess to know nothing about the Mennonite church in Canada, but let’s assume Wikipedia does:

In 2015, the first same-gender marriage was officiated in a congregation of the Mennonite Church Canada with the denomination clarifying that each congregation is free to decide its own position on the issue.

Perhaps our fleeing friends will find a Mennonite congregation in Canada who is willing to help an openly gay man emigrate from the US with his HIV positive Jewish boyfriend, but he might want to consider the possibility that they won’t.

For Phil Morel, leaving is under serious consideration: “My wife is Mexican, I hold an EU passport. We both feel very disenfranchised from the bigotry, inflammatory language and dangerous positions taken, even if we do live in California.”

This family also doesn’t sound very American.

Alexa Tenjou was blunt and circumspect: “I teach overseas and due to the political climate, I have no intention on returning,” she wrote. “As a black American and a woman, things are decidedly stacked against me.”

This lady is not actually living in America.

Catherine Hannan sees so much turmoil ahead that she and her partner are making plans to leave before it’s too hard to leave the country. “We live in a rural area where people are already starting to regret voting for Trump. We tried to warn them but they were blinded by their religious convictions,” wrote Hannan, who says she stands out in her community because she’s originally from California, which she says is a more progressive state.

Here we have two people from “progressive” California who moved to a Red state and started lecturing the locals on how they should vote and poured scorn on their religious beliefs. Yeah, I bet that went down well. When the BBC says “she stands out in her community” I suspect they mean “she is detested in her community”. No wonder they’re leaving, but for some reason they want to quit the entire country rather than return to oh-so-wonderful California. Why would that be, then?

“We are leaving everything behind including our livestock…We see the changes coming and know it’s only a matter of time before there will be a mass exodus.”

You’re leaving your livestock behind? Not the most rational of people, are they?

For some, temporary moves abroad are turning into permanent or long-term stays, changing plans of returning to America.

Which is important, especially when the BBC is struggling to find any examples of normal, functioning American families actually leaving.

“I’m a US citizen living in the UK. Originally, I had plans of returning to the US once I finished my master’s degree this past December. Once Trump won the election, I postponed my move,” wrote Angelina Velarde. “Luckily for me, my husband is a British citizen. Due to this, I’m on a spousal visa that’s valid for 2.5 years.”

I like this. She planned to move back to the US but when Trump got elected she turned to her husband and said “Hey, I’m sticking around after all!” I bet he’s chuffed to find out that his marital arrangements depend on who wins elections in the United States.

Emily Ann Granger moved to Sydney in December, having decided to do so earlier in 2016.  “My partner is an Australian citizen and we had contemplated his move to the US, but are so glad we made the right decision [to leave the US for Australia] given everything that is happening and yet to happen back home.”

She decided to move to Sydney before Trump was even the nominee, and has now been there for just over two months. But she’s not going back, because of Trump. Uh-huh.

For Jeanne Dross, age and available healthcare have limited her options.

“I am a retired person, as are many of my friends: the point system generally disqualifies us in almost all European countries, Australia, and New Zealand,” she wrote. “In the few places we are considered acceptable, such as Portugal, Bulgaria, Costa Rica, and Panama, the cost of health insurance is such that we cannot afford to leave because, though we have paid Medicare [taxes] for decades, coverage stops when we cross the border.”

So countries generally don’t want immigrants who cant work, will make large claims on their health services, and don’t want to buy health insurance. Who knew? Bear in mind that a lot of these people want to leave because Trump’s immigration policies mirror those of the countries they want to move to.

Let us remind ourselves that the BBC received “hundreds of compelling responses” to their call for stories of Americans fleeing the Trumpocaust. If these are the ones they decided to print, one wonders what didn’t make the cut.

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21 thoughts on “Fleeing the Trumpocaust

  1. This, Mr Tim, is comedy gold. Well done to you.

    I particularly like this: “given everything that is happening and yet to happen back home.” Here we have the fear of every human ever; that we simply don’t know what is going to occur. Today grey skies and drizzle, tomorrow the promise of a little sun, the day after a runaway meteor to put it all into perspective.

    Of course I understand the climate frothers know — just know — what the climate will be in 100 years time even if experienced weather forecasters struggle with anything beyond 48 hours. But here we have ordinary people who can not only see what is happening but know something *will* happen and if I read the tone properly, it can only be bad.

    I expect all of them, last August or so, could clearly see the outcome of the US election three months later. Obvious, because all the media told them repeatedly and they had the facts and numbers to back it up. Guaranteed. Just like Brexit, there could only be one outcome, right? But as many wise experts have discovered throughout history, the only difficulty with predicting the future is not knowing what’s going to happen.

  2. To be fair: I remember having a conversation with a colleague years ago (it was during the “interregnum” after the Bush-Gore election, when the Gore-Lieberman team – the Sore-Loserman team, as the wags would have it – decided to contest the result on the basis of the stupidity of old people in Florida), in which he asked me why, since I reside in the US, I had not renounced my French citizenship. My answer: I want to be able to leave the country if Hillary Clinton ever gets elected to president.

    In the run-up to this election, I found myself wondering how (i) I could have been so prescient in 2000, and (ii) whether, for consistency’s sake, I would need to make good on my threat. I came to the conclusion that I probably (definitely) wouldn’t.

    But I’m still glad His Orangeness has saved me the trouble.

  3. she and her partner are making plans to leave before it’s too hard to leave the country

    Eh? What does this even mean? Does the BBC care? No. Stoke up the irrational fear, stoke it up!!

    Funny how elections and polls are only ‘divisive’ when people and causes the BBC supports lose.

    Let me guess – had Clinton won the result would not have been ‘divisive’ and the BBC would not have desperately dug up a dozen people threatening to move abroad.

  4. What about all the “Lovvies” who were going to leave the country. Any of them gone yet?

  5. Any actual American-as-apple-pie family already planning a move from the Midwest to (say) the Canadian Prairies could sell a “We’re moving coz of Trump” story for enough to finance the move.

    The International media would be so desperate for an actual case of “moving because; Trumphitler”

    Wonder how much the blighters would actually pay?

  6. Interestingly, while working hard to find a few oddballs who can be claimed to maybe, possibly, if some other country will take them, may or may not be leaving the US on account of the Trumpening, the BBC doesn’t mention the number of people (mostly wealthy) who have been actually renouncing their US citizenships over the past 8 years, in a trickle that increased to a flood after 2010, the year FATCA became law.

    I guess that wouldn’t fit the narrative.

  7. I am also contemplating moving. If the “Calexit” idiocracy proceeds to the point at which California might secede from the Union (much as did South Carolina in 1861), I’m afraid that I would be compelled to pack up and leave the Golden Mirage and head to the forsaken frontier of Tejas.

    It might actually be worth it; if California breaks free, it will scuttle the hopes of Democrats around the remainder of the USA. The Democrat party would cease to exist.

  8. I’ve thought quite a bit about leaving the US over the past couple of months. At this point, I’d live in a one-room stone hut in the Outer Hebrides if it meant I’d never have to see another newsclip about a B-list actor reading the poetry of a teenage Dairy Queen emp!oyee, listen to my upper-middle-class coworkers talk about how frightened they are because this is just like Germany in 1937, when they’re not talking about going on spa vacations or having their kitchens redone, watch the usual suspects assemble for a rush-hour protest in solidarity with, you know, all the Muslims being rounded up and deported, etc. Call me weak, but I don’t know how much more I can take.

  9. Most of these stories seem made up, especially the rural folks from Cali or the ” black women” teaching abroad, unless it’s a African nation , I do not know of one country that a black person would feel they had more opportunities or assimilation than then US, not even Canada, surprised that under the “enlighten Obama era” she decided to teach abroad.

    But what is really crazy is that all their replies about their travel plans are dependent on the strict immigration laws of the country they are now in or want go to , “Luckily for me, my husband is a British citizen” , “the point system generally disqualifies us in almost all European countries,” “My partner is an Australian citizen“ ” I met with a lawyer and began the process of applying for residency in Spain. My wife is an EU citizen.”

    All with their heads up their butt, that it doesn’t occurr to them maybe Americans have had enough and now want foreigners to respect their laws, stop abusing their generosity and manipulating their system.. Then “demanding rights”

    Arrghh, can’t stand these people .
    * liberals

  10. To all those who are leaving: Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

  11. Fascinating that with some simple observations you are able to knock down the silly house of cards the professionals at the BBC tried to construct out of these pathetic anecdotes. Well done.

  12. Ken Mitchell – I, on behalf of the forlorn frontier of Tejas, welcome you. My folks came from Germany and the UK in the 18th and 19th centuries and have enjoyed it since. Austin and Dallas might remind you a bit too much of Ca, but still, they’re Tejas. We have bumper stickers that say “I wasn’t born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could”. You might want one. I’ll buy.

  13. Since when has any kind of major vote or election not been “divisive”?

    Do we ever see a large-scale vote where nearly everyone goes the same way, outside of those lovely socialist paradises like North Korea, Syria and Saddam-era Iraq?

    Falklands referendum is about the only one I can remember that wasn’t divisive.

  14. I’m always amazed at the way the homos*xuals and others living in sin can’t just come right out and say what they are. “My partner” means “the person I’m having s*x with but didn’t bother to marry”. “Gay” means “homos*xual”. “Ignorance and “bigotry” means “Why can’t those stupid sh*theads think just like ME?”

  15. Some of these people not only are leaving or not going or something – but they’re going to do it in February 2016 – most awesome Bill and Ted

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