Russia and the USA: Converging in the S-Bend

In the comments of my most recent post on Trump, regular commenter and fellow blogger Alex K. spots an interesting similarity between Russia and the USA:

In the late 1990s, people who posted about the Clintons deserving pink (prison issue) undies and the MSM being leftwing through and through sounded like boring whiners unloading their loserdom into cyberspace. Losers or not, apparently some of them were right, but it only became obvious to me during this campaign how incredibly corrupt HRC always was and how the US media is capable of lying. They are catching up with Putin’s state media the way they play fast and loose with facts and work up fits of hysteria.

I noted this partly because I came across another unsavoury similarity between the two nations, also in a blog comment, over at David Thompson’s:

It doesn’t matter what you do. You are the object, not the subject. Consistency on the side of the rule-makers is not only not required, it would get in their way.
I knew we were doomed back about 1980 when I heard an account of a small meat-packer who got in trouble with OSHA (US Federal Occupational Health And Safety). Their inspector noticed the removable cleaning hatch on the packaging line, and told them the presence of the hole in the machine was a violation. Shop owner replies that the Cal-OSHA (California state equivalent) inspector had insisted on the hatch. Too bad, violation, pay up and weld it closed. “But what about Cal-OSHA? They’ll fine me and make me re-install it.” “Not our problem.”

There is a paragraph near the end of John Mole’s I was a Potato Oligarch where the Moscow police department orders him to install bars in the window of his restaurant’s kitchen as a security measure, only for the fire department to fine him for those very same bars.  Of course in Russia this was a deliberate scam to keep the income via bribes or fines flowing and in the USA it is simply bureaucratic incompetence paired with callousness, but the result is the same for the end user.

It’s hard to see how either country is moving in the right direction.

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15 thoughts on “Russia and the USA: Converging in the S-Bend

  1. Woo Hoo! We’ve uncovered one way in which the Australian constitution is superior to the US Constitution.

    The above could not (well, should not) happen in Oz, as the constitution is clear: If there is a conflict, Federal law trumps State law.

    (This causes quite some tooth-gnashing at times – mostly among state-employed compliance inspectors who run head on into a conflicting federal law, heh heh heh)

  2. Steve,

    One of the things that impressed me about Australia was when I briefly considered unsponsored migration there back in 2010. My engineering qualifications were vetted by Engineers Australia and their letter of acceptance covered my being able to migrate to any state of my choosing within Australia. By contrast, in Canada you would need to apply to the governing body in the state you intend to move to (which you might not know that far ahead). I suspect this is something to do with the Quebecians insistence on doing everything at state level.

  3. I’m sure an expert on US and California administrative law would have an answer. However, the answer could be “sue them” – in other words, shut up unless there’s a good chance for a class-action lawsuit.

  4. I’m sure an expert on US and California administrative law would have an answer.

    Indeed, with said expert being hired at the customer’s expense and after a lengthy, drawn-out campaign which the various authorities make as difficult as possible pour encourager les autres they will make a decision without any apology or compensation. Assuming the individual is not bankrupt by then. As with so much in these bureaucratic tyrannies – and Britain is fast heading in the same direction – the process is the punishment.

  5. Did anyone notice that the media didn’t even have to provide any coverage of the recent US bombing of Syrian military sites, especially since the US envoy to the UN had so aptly wrapped up the situation by stating that “even by Russia’s standards, tonight’s stunt — a stunt replete with moralism and grandstanding — is uniquely cynical and hypocritical.”

  6. Did anyone notice that the media didn’t even have to provide any coverage of the recent US bombing of Syrian military sites

    Of course not! Why report on Obama’s bungling when Trump called some Venezuelan chick fat a decade ago?

  7. I went to the rugby in Vancouver once, and the heroic players of western Canada, i.e. BC, beat The Lions. I doubt that Western Australia has ever beaten the Lions.

  8. “At least Canada has a standard rail gauge.

    Heh! Australia doesn’t?”

    In the days of God’s Wonderful Railway, England didn’t have.

  9. “Of course not! Why report on Obama’s bungling when Trump called some Venezuelan chick fat a decade ago?”

    But this was a successful military strike on target, why not talk it up?

    The RAAF formed part of the attack but the pilots pulled out at the last minute once they discovered that the target was the Syrian military, wimps eh?

  10. “Heh! Australia doesn’t?”

    Pretty smart defensive strategy to keep the Mexicans south of border and out of our colony, just like the Wehrmacht found out in Russia.

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