The Desert Sun Podcast #005

In the 5th episode of The Desert Sun Podcast I talk with Chris Mounsey of The Devil’s Kitchen blog about the state of British politics, business, religion, Brexit, the NHS, libertarianism, and a whole load of other stuff with surprisingly little swearing.

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6 thoughts on “The Desert Sun Podcast #005

  1. Looking forward to listening to this one, have known Chris for a number of years. Are you looking for more people to talk to?

  2. On the issue of refusal of people in power to make hard decisions, I think its down to the increasing infantilisation (if thats a word) of society – I think more and more people have never fully crossed from childhood (where the parent makes the decisions and provides the structure to the childs life) to adulthood where people make their own decisions and stand by them. More and more people expect someone else (mostly ‘the State’) to make their decisions for them. No one wants to be the ‘bad cop’ making the hard decisions, doing the things that no one likes, but have to be done. They don’t want to be disliked. They don’t have the internal psychological toughness to say to themselves ‘This is what needs to be done, it won’t be popular, but my shoulders are broad enough to take that dislike, because I know the course of action I’m embarking on is the right one’, ie to act like an adult should.

  3. On the NHS: I keep saying it, its a Potempkin Village. There’s this idea that ‘Everyone loves the NHS’ when the reality is that the usual Leftists in the media love the NHS and the unions love the NHS (because it provides them with hundreds of thousands of members), but the public are more ambivalent, especially if they or their loved ones have had to have more than a passing acquaintance with its tender care.

    And of the ones who still support it, most will accept it has its failings (because they can’t deny them, the person they’re talking to will probably have some horror story, they may have their own too) but what really frightens them into holding on to nurse (ha ha) is the fear of what comes instead.

    Which is why those who have a vested interest in keeping the NHS as it is (ie those making money out of it or those for whom it’s a source of political power) ALWAYS throw up the phantom of the US system to anyone suggesting that it be reformed. Which in itself ignores the fact that the US has a massive State funded medical system of its own, but you’d never know it according to those who declare that everyone in the US either has private health insurance that pays for a gold plated hospital bed or lives under a bridge in constant fear of getting the sniffles. Its the fear factor – if let someone reform the NHS then you’ll all have to pay thousands to see a doctor and die in a ditch if your poor.

    No one ever admits that other European countries do things far better than the UK, often involving those evil capitalists running private medical facilities , with far better customer satisfaction and all round better outcomes for patients across the board. If you admitted that, you’d have immediately accepted that the NHS could be replaced by something else, which was better for patients (but not necessarily for the people who work in it), which of course would never do……….

    Like Brexit/Trump etc, there is a completely un-mined anti NHS seam of votes. No politician is (yet) prepared to dare to mine for them, but I bet someone who did would get a decent return. If they also sold the change to a contributory insurance type system on its ability to stop freeloaders from abroad abusing the NHS they might be surprised how far it could take them. Even the die hard NHS supporters are quite vociferous about freeloaders…….

    Sorry for the screed of text, the NHS is a bugbear of mine, watching my father’s old age care be mangled by it. If the family weren’t in a position to throw money at the problems, I hate to think what would have been the outcome. Death for certain, but considerably more suffering too.

  4. Almost finished the podcast! (long commutes have their advantages sometimes) Really interesting stuff!

    @Jim – a big part of the issue is that at no point in the NHS “debate” does anyone discuss how it works on the Continent. It’s always presented as Our Saintly NHS (peace be upon it) and some cartoon villain version of the US system that my American wife doesn’t recognise, so utterly fails a “healthcare system Turing test”.

  5. Excellent!

    I saw that documentary “Death on a Staircase”. And you’re right, it’s an absolute disgrace that these so called experts wield so much (evil) power. I also understand that dental evidence (bite mark analysis) has undergone some debunking in the last few years as well.

  6. Blimey, I’ve not seen the mellifluous monster Mounsey for years… good listening, thank you both.

    Makes me want to resurrect my blog instead of attempting to get a sensible discussion in the comments of the papers and magazines’ websites.

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