The Arrest of Tommy Robinson

Yesterday the right-wing provocateur Tommy Robinson was arrested for livestreaming the comings and goings outside a British court building where a rape trial involving Muslims was ongoing. Within hours the British government had placed a gagging order on the press, so as usual it fell to Twitter to tell everyone what went on.

The chattering classes are this morning stroking their chins and sternly reminding us that filming outside a courtroom is illegal and Robinson is currently serving a suspended sentence for the same offence. Reporting on ongoing court matters is strictly controlled in the UK in order not to prejudice a trial, and people make a valid point when they say Robinson’s actions could result in a mistrial. At best, he’s been very naive and probably ought to find himself a reliable legal adviser if he’s going to keep doing stuff like this.

However, there is a lot more going on here and the chattering classes are either deliberately overlooking it or, more likely, utterly unaware of it. Robinson has not been arrested for filming outside a court building, he’s been arrested because he embarrasses the ruling classes. He has been constantly followed, monitored, and harassed by Plod wherever he goes solely because he draws attention to the failings of the ruling classes. In this particular instance, he is making the point that the mainstream media is silent on the issue of Muslims raping vulnerable, underage British girls in northern, working-class towns, leaving it to people like him with iPhones to keep everyone informed. While he’s probably mistaken the lack of media coverage of this ongoing case for self-censorship rather than mere compliance with the law, the wider point is that the media does self-censor and particularly so in cases such as these. The modern British media is merely a mouthpiece for the ruling classes, which is why so many journalists have taken to Twitter to pompously besmirch Robinson and justify his arrest and incarceration. The last thing mainstream journalists want is some pleb without the proper credentials, much less a degree from Oxford or Cambridge, reporting on things they’d prefer went unmentioned.

While it is true that Robinson has committed some sort of offence here, Britain is fast becoming like many authoritarian states in that everyone is committing an offence merely by going about their daily business, and it’s therefore just a matter of who the police choose to arrest. And even if you haven’t committed a crime, the police can arrest whoever they like for wholly imaginary reasons and face no consequences. With the process being the punishment, it doesn’t really matter if you’ve committed an offence or not: if the ruling classes and their minions in uniforms decide you’re a problem, they’ll make your life hell and convince themselves they’ve acted lawfully. We should remind ourselves at this point that nobody rotted away in a Soviet gulag for no reason: there was always a charge attached to their incarceration. The fact Robinson was originally arrested for breach of the peace and later that changed to prejudicing a trial shows the authorities aren’t really interested in what they charge him with provided he ends up behind bars.

Somebody asked on Twitter yesterday why the government is terrified of upsetting Muslims to the point they’re prepared to jail the likes of Robinson. I responded by saying they’re not: the government and their bag carriers are not in the least afraid or Muslims because they pose no threat to their way of life, and are often quite useful in cementing them into positions of power and privilege. What they are genuinely terrified of is the ignorant, white masses rising up and hanging them from lampposts, and the event which triggers this could well be widespread revulsion at what the ruling classes have seemingly allowed Muslims to get away with in towns like Rotherham and Telford. The nightmare scenario for the likes of Theresa May and tossers writing in The Times and The Guardian is not a crazed jihadist bombing a concert or knifing someone on Westminster Bridge but an angry mob of people who look and sound much like them.

Tommy Robinson to some degree represents that angry mob, and even those who don’t like his methods or opinions are forced to admit he has a point: the government is failing massively on many levels, and eventually things will boil over with ugly results. The idiots in government think by chucking him in jail the problem will go away, just as Twitter and Facebook think they can eradicate alt-right opinions by banning users who hold them, as if covering their ears is the answer. History is littered with national leaders who spent time in prison for criticising the previous regime; not that I think Robinson will become Prime Minister, but it demonstrates that rulers who jail those who are inconvenient often don’t remain in charge very long. It’s a sign of extreme weakness rather than strength, and it’s no coincidence that Robinson is being arrested at a time when Britain has one of the weakest yet childishly authoritarian Prime Ministers in living memory.

The next week or so will probably test May’s government more than she realises. The public are already incensed over Count Dankula’s Nazi pug prosecution, and if Robinson is harmed in custody in any way, the ruling classes might find he has a lot more supporters than they thought, and some are ready to step up and take things a little further. The IRA in their successful campaign to bomb their way to the bargaining table were able to rely on an enormous number of people putting money into hats passed around in pubs. Similarly, jihadists are supported in large part by thousands of hands placing notes into bowls passed through the crowd during Friday prayers.

Let’s leave the who, what, and how to one side for a minute, mainly because they’re questions I can’t answer. Instead, let’s try a thought experiment: if hats were passed through the British population asking for money to tackle the problems Tommy Robinson is highlighting, how many people would cough up, and how much money would be raised? I expect if the ruling classes knew the answer, they’d turn white.

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52 thoughts on “The Arrest of Tommy Robinson

  1. It does need to be made clear that there are a large number of Muslims in British prisons and that consequently being there for anti-Islam reasons is genuinely life threatening.

  2. It does need to be made clear that there are a large number of Muslims in British prisons and that consequently being there for anti-Islam reasons is genuinely life threatening.

    Indeed, look what happened to the guy who left bacon outside a mosque: dead within weeks, and the government has now come out after several years and said he died of a drug overdose. Uh-huh.

    Although I think if anything happens to Robinson at the hands of Muslims inside prison we’ll see genuine riots resulting in people, including policemen, being killed.

  3. >Somebody asked on Twitter yesterday why the government is terrified of upsetting Muslims to the point they’re prepared to jail the likes of Robinson.

    They’re not terrified of Muslims. They want to to use them (and others) to replace the white proles, and eventually the shire Tories.

  4. If Robinson was not naive then he did it either because he thinks the British public need to be kept informed (if only because the MSM completely fail to do so) about such matters, or he is deliberately pulling the tail of the tiger. Sorry, let me correct that: our gubmint isn’t any sort of tiger, more a bad-tempered small cat.

    It be interesting to see if he survives a jail sentence, if only because while our jails are full of the invaders there may be enough non-invader gangs to protect him.

  5. What’s needed is some way of hitting back at the costumed thugs and their masters.

    Write to West Yorks (Crime) Commissioner Gordon even tho’ he is just an empty suit. But if enough protest arrives on even an empty suit ‘s desk it will frighten the pricks. Write to complain to fucking ANYBODY. If anyone knows of a fighting fund for Tommy’s lawyers can they post a link?

    Thanks for the “childishly authoritarian ” line: it sums up the Fish Faced Cow to a tee.

    If everyone against the scum of the would-be boss classes of this country wrote one letter telling them they are in for trouble –that in itself would be half the battle. If Brexit supporters sent 20 million letters–one each for Christ’s sake– to Tory HQ telling them to be shot of the FFC and her little remain gang then even the Tories famed talent for ignoring folk would vanish like shite in a furnace.

  6. Tim, your site sometimes stops me from posting comments. Don’t know why. Anyway, I was saying that Robinson was either very badly advised by his lawyer, or he’s doing this deliberately for the publicity (apparently the gagging order only applies until the end of the trial he was covering). It’s going to be interesting then. He’s been constantly targetted and harrassed by the Establishment, because they know he’s capable of causing them huge trouble.

  7. “What they are genuinely terrified of is the ignorant, white masses rising up and hanging them from lampposts”

    Reminds me of a Russian disinformation chief quipping that if there is a democratic election in Russia, she would be hanging from a lamppost the next day (implying even worse fascists would come to power).

    So they are not all that different, are they? Probably goes a long way in explaining why the Putin gang won’t be sanctioned as long as any Boeings they choose to shoot down don’t fall in central London.

  8. While we are at it: a recent episode of Netflix “Designated survivor” soap opera had a US presidential aide try to convince the governor of a fictional US protectorate not to declare independence. His last, best argument was: “the UK did Brexit: look at how that worked out for them”. Looks like Obama has started his new job already.

  9. If filming outside a courtroom is illegal, then why has nobody from the BBC been arrested?

  10. ’The public are already incensed over Count Dankula’s Nazi pug prosecution..’

    I wish I could believe that. I suspect many just shrug, looking at him and saying ‘Well, the authorities must have had good reason, he looks like a wrong ‘un..’

    But pass that hat, I’ll chuck something in. Because what we are shaping up to become under the elites is not the England I want to live in, and if that means breaking a few eggs, well, it’s how omelettes are made, after all.

    Time people aimed to misbehave.

  11. Whereas the Soviets had the NKVD/KGB to cow the populace, the UK has outsourced that job to the common criminals and Islamic thugs. It provides the government with a measure of deniability for any adverse consequences–for now. Such a state of affairs cannot last forever.

  12. Britain today is a full-blown police state that actively suppresses all the classical freedoms: religion, speech, press, assembly…

    One has to think that the enormous losses of young men in two world wars changed the British and European gene pools for the worse, producing supine populations that will submit to anything, including the systematic rape of their children.

  13. I think misunderstand how a British Police state would work.

    Its works by exempting certain people from protection of the law. Tommy Robinson might be persecuted by the police but he is endanger from muslim enforcement gangs. I have seen numerous assualts of him and other working class protesters just ignored by plod. This is how Iranain, Cuban, Venezuelan and Turkish thigs remain in power. Police don’t so much repress as leave crimals to oppress certain people

  14. Excellent piece, and the usual excellent comments. I’ve nothing else to add, except my thanks.

  15. Police don’t so much repress as leave crimals to oppress certain people

    That’s how it worked on the inside of the Gulag – common criminals on short sentences for actual crimes were class allies, and used by the Gulag admin to keep the “Zeks” on long stretches for Section 58 political crimes in line.

    See also – Kapos in German KZ’s.

  16. Don’t worry!
    GOD has set a date for The FINAL SOLUTION TO THE MUSLIM PROBLEM – HE is shortly going to send His son Jesus to slaughter all Muslims who worship the imaginary moon idol ‘allah’ in Mecca.

  17. Justice must be seen to be done. But if you insist on it being seen we’ll arrest you.

    If I’ve got that, then why have court reporters or the public at trials at all. Just release the transcript and verdict and save the press a bundle of money.

    BTW, anyone know who what where? I assume it’s the usual but…

  18. Julia–There are lots of numptys everywhere. The mass of the country were numptys who didn’t want any trouble back in 1640.

    But that doesn’t matter. The battle between good and evil goes on. We all need to lend a hand to good or suffer the consequences of evil triumphing.

  19. ’The public are already incensed over Count Dankula’s Nazi pug prosecution..’

    I wish this were true, Tim, but is it? And how can one know?

    @abacab
    That’s how it worked on the inside of the Gulag

    Another Solzhenitsyn survivor, eh? 🙂

    @Mr Ecks

    There’s a link to donate at https://tommyrobinson.online/support/

    I just donated a bit – I should have done so a long time ago – and signed the petition you posted. It seems to be doing rather well 100,000 supporters in 24 hours.

    I started following Tommy Robinson on twitter about a year ago, after I first read his book ‘Enemy of the State’, and read him almost every day until they shut down his account for good. In that book he describes how he barely survived the modern, humane version of the hangman’s noose, viz, a gang of muslim criminals inside a jail. He’s in real danger in there. His wife’s probably having a fit now, poor woman. To the best of my knowledge, she has not yet been publicly identified – this has been used as a lever against Tommy Robinson in the past – but now the rules of the game may have changed. Let’s just hope he can find enough sympathy with the guards or other inmates to keep him safe.

    Apparently there was a protest today outside westminster? Some videos here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdHfu9qiwROgiapZpd4U-hQ

    Let’s hope it had some effect.

  20. C.2004 BBC R5L ran a forum on its website. It wasn’t bad for the time and allowed some robust political discussions. It was lightly moderated and based on complaints. Occasionally someone would post something about Muslims grooming white girls in northern towns and it would quickly disappear. The forums didn’t last long after that because moderation quickly became overbearing and expensive.

    I was working long hours and the forums were a bit of light relief during the day. I admit I dismissed those posts as righty nut jobs, and from their other posts they tended to be. It was a real eye opener when the first grooming cases hit the news some 10 years later. The flash to bang time being so long adds grist to your mill.

    That said, I’m not convinced by your revolution argument. I’ll believe it when a V type movement happens and first 20 people turn up and start filming and get arrested and then 50 ……. If you really want to support Tommy and start the revolution that’s how it’s done, not throwing £20 in to a kitty.

  21. I hadn’t spotted this news item until I read this blog post, which in itself is curious, isn’t it?

    A browse of the BBC news website finds no current news articles about Robinson/Lennon. Putting either of his names in to the search box results in old articles but nothing contemporary.

    Perhaps reporting on someone reporting on court case is contempt of court too? Surely that can be the only reason why the BBC aren’t reporting on it?

    From what Google tells us, he was arrested for a breach of the peace, not contempt of court. It will be interesting to see this play out and see quite what the definition of “breach of the peace” being used is. If he’d identified witnesses, defendants or key points of evidence in an active court case, he presumably would have been charged with something more relevant that the same charge that you’d expect a noisy neighbour to get.

  22. Sort of unrelated to the main post but Trump, at least in America, may have set a trap for Twatter and potentially Farcebook, Google and others by “losing” a free speech decision:

    https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/trump-lets-himself-lose-twitter-battle-to-set-up-bigger-win/

    However, for the moment, The Sun has an article up about Tommy Robinson here:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6376643/tommy-robinson-english-defence-league-edl-arrested-facebook-video-grooming-trial/

    Let’s see how long it remains a valid link, eh?

  23. “Robinson has not been arrested for filming outside a court building, he’s been arrested because he embarrasses the ruling classes”

    What is of most concern here is that the state may have somehow grabbed total control over the rule of law, whereas common law should provide for the participation of all members of the community to prevent such a single authority having all the power and the opportunity to exercise tyrannical control. This is not what you would expect in England under the rule of English Law with its long historical tenants and it being the originator of Common Law throughout the commonwealth.

    How many secret trials are held in the UK these days, I guess none of us know this for sure, but anecdotally they seem to be increasing. I have also heard about disturbing accounts of rough justice meted out by their family courts, with biased findings against fathers and the removal of children from the family and becoming children of the state.

    On Solzhenitsyn, he writes many years later that if only we knew the identities of the Cheka other than when they came banging at your door to take you away in the cover of darkness, maybe the threat to the vast amount of the community might have changed as the Cheka feared for their own and their direct family’s safety. Whereas currently the identities of the Cheka are well documented on the imagery and videos taken during the current round of door knockings and mass arrests. Will this eventually prove to be a deterrent for the rise of tyranny remains to be seen.

    The other question on power and numbers, just as there are legions of new Tommies ready and willing to replace Tommy if he is incarcerated or terminated are there similar numbers of tyrannical state operatives ready and willing to replace one of their own who succumbed to reasonability and common law and say in the case of Tommy decided not to press charges or find him not guilty of charges. So, let’s just say that Tommy and by all accounts his good QC manage to persuade a state operative that he has been wrongfully arrested, imprisoned or sentenced, does the state operative not do the right thing and stand up and be counted and release him because he knows that there are many more of his peers and juniors that will eagerly take his place following his likely termination and punishment by the state.

    Whenever there are instances of trouble in Blighty I am always reminded of Clash songs, Tommy Gun comes to mind on this one.

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  25. I doubt the “elite” are worried about a violent uprising, apart from anything else they’re far to arrogant to see the possibility.
    What they are afraid of is loss of status. Having spent decades lecturing that Islam is the religion of peace, and that Muslims have been taught to behave like us, they now face the choice of openly admitting that they were talking garbage, and hence making themselves into a laughing stock- a permanently out of power laughing stock, or attempting to cover up their gross mistakes (which mostly arose from their giant egos).
    They seem to have stopped peddling the RoP line except when pushed, are at last doing something about the rape gangs, and are hoping that the problem will subside, or at least that it won’t erupt before their retirement.
    By the way, what happened to the crew that filmed the arrest? Weren’t they filming outside the court?

  26. I was surprised but gratified to see that there are protest marches in Australia…..

  27. In the sentencing hearing for his previous offence of this kind, he received a suspended custodial sentence, and was explicitly told by the judge:-

    “The sentence, therefore, that I pass upon you, taking into account all of those matters that have been placed before me and your admissions entered via Mr. Kovalevsky, is one of three months’ imprisonment which will be suspended for a period of 18 months. That will be suspended.

    There will be no conditions that need to be attached to that suspended sentence, but you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court.

    In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as “Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists” and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside.”

    Regina vs. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

    Guess what? “Tommy” does exactly what he was warned would land him back in contempt, and in jail, and exactly as promised his sentence is activated.

    There may be conspiracy, there may be cover-up, but there’s definitely a big dose of “what did you expect?”

  28. Jason – the previous sentence was three months. Where’s the other ten come from?

    Tim – “not that I think Robinson will become Prime Minister…” – stranger things have happened…

  29. >”In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as “Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists” and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside.”

    But did he do that? Did you watch his live-stream? I’ve heard reports that he refrained from doing “just that”, but I don’t know what’s true.

  30. I believe they used a similar technique against him a couple of years ago, before his appearance at Oxford Union. Give a man an unjust suspended sentence, and you have him leashed for a year. It’s all on youtube – he apologizes that he is legally prohibited from giving his intended speech, and instead talks about growing up in Luton.

    Matthew McConnagay – “stranger things have happened…”
    I think it would take something considerably worse than another Dunkirk for the political classes in the UK to publicly take him seriously, let alone unite behind him politically. That said, he’d probably do a better job than most of those who presume to run for election.

    Thing is, if they do manage to silence Tommy Robinson, one way or another, whoever comes after him will be more uncompromising, more violent, and doubtless more paranoid.

  31. @Pat on May 26, 2018 at 2:19 pm said:

    If filming outside a courtroom is illegal, then why has nobody from the BBC been arrested?

    It’s not. Tim N was wrong. Filming on Court property without Court permission is illegal.

    Tommy near start of video sought & received confirmation from police that he was Not on Court property.

    For open discussion see: http://www.bishop-hill.net/unthreaded

  32. There may be conspiracy, there may be cover-up, but there’s definitely a big dose of “what did you expect?”

    Well yes. But for me this has parallels with the poor sap who made the video that Hillary blamed for causing Libyan jihadis to slaughter Americans in Benghazi. Liberals – including Paul B at Tim Worstall’s place – fell over themselves to sternly remind us that this guy *had* broken the terms of his parole by making a video and thus two-dozen men raiding his house at midnight in front of another dozen news crews was all legit. I don’t know quite what we should call this, but justice it isn’t.

  33. Jason L–Bollocks to their C-O-C shite.

    They are trying to silence a man who wont shut up about British girls suffering. In the way that the cultural Marxist scum so-called “elite” who are destroying this nation want him to shut up.

    That is all that matters. Seems you are content to play along tho’.

  34. @Hector – But did he do that? Did you watch his live-stream?

    Not exactly, i watched it he claimed that they were alleged rapists.

  35. Jason Lynch – OK, in the cold, sober and dispassionate light of day Tommy Robinson MAY HAVE breached the terms of his probation (that has not been demonstrated satisfactorily to my mind) and therefore, as you point out, was immediately arrested and jailed.

    However, compare and contrast his treatment to the revolving door justice that those criminals enjoy who burgle, mug pensioners, steal cars, deal drugs and repeatedly violate the terms and conditions of their parole without consequence. I suppose that everyone deserves a 32nd chance, particularly if you are a career criminal.

    As Theodore Dalrymple pointed out, it is extremely difficult to get sent to prison nowadays short of murder or not paying your TV license fee.

    And as others have pointed out, the suspended sentence was for 3 months, not thirteen … If there were additional charges to be laid connected with his behaviour outside of the court (and at this point in time, it seems that he appears to have done nothing to justify the arrest and/or charges) then he should have been formally charged, tried in front of a jury and if found guilty, only then sentenced to additional time in prison. Even then, repeat and committed criminals when charged with multiple crimes almost invariably serve their sentences concurrently, not consecutively.

    However, I suppose that the principles laid down in the Magna Carta that a person cannot be deprived of his liberty or possessions except by due process and in front of a jury of his peers is now just one of those quaint relics that can be discarded in this brave new world of ours, eh?

  36. @Tim Newman on May 27, 2018 at 9:01 pm said:

    I did consider “mistaken”, but

    First: Police telling TR he was allowed to film when not on Court property

    Second: We’ve all seen “outside court” reporting, interviews, defendants/convicted arriving/leaving on TV and in newspapers.

    Enough?

  37. First: Police telling TR he was allowed to film when not on Court property

    Second: We’ve all seen “outside court” reporting, interviews, defendants/convicted arriving/leaving on TV and in newspapers.

    Okay, but I don’t believe I’ve said anything contradictory to this. From what I can tell, in the absence of you quoting the part you think is mistaken, you believe I’ve declared that filming outside a courtroom is illegal. I don’t think I have, mainly because I’m manifestly ill-equipped to make such a statement. I even made sure I said “court building” instead of “courtroom” to avoid giving the impression Robinson was inside the building.

  38. So when Cliff Richards was accused of ‘;Child Grooming’ the police tipped off the BBC and encouraged all the filming in the world. Tommy Robinson films a real Child Grooming gang and he is in prison within 2 hours ..Ummmm!

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