Words from on high

I see this sentiment expressed a lot by establishment types:

The latest salvo by former FBI Director James Comey in his feud with President Donald Trump included the charge that the president was morally unfit and may have obstructed justice.

When asked if he considered Mr Trump fit to lead, the former FBI director said he did not believe claims about Mr Trump’s mental health, but did see him as “morally unfit” to be president.

Perhaps Trump is morally unfit to hold the office of president, but I thought that’s why they have an election in which everyone can pass judgement on such matters. What Comey means is that he and other like-minded people think he is morally unfit, and thus shouldn’t be president.

There are clear rules regarding eligibility to run for elected office – age, nationality at time of birth, criminal convictions, etc. – which are objective and easily verified (or at least, one would have thought so) – but everything else quite rightly is left for the voters to decide. Otherwise it’s not really an election, is it? The claim that Trump is “morally unfit” for office is the flip side of bleating that Hillary was the “most qualified” candidate ever. Despite being demonstrably untrue, who cares? She’s running for elected office, not an appointed position. If qualifications matter – and nobody mentioned them before the 2016 presidential campaign, and certainly not when a “community organiser” was running – then why have elections at all? Why not just appoint the person who ticks the most boxes?

And that’s what Comey’s remarks come down to: they don’t like how the plebs voted, and think only they – being clever people – should get to decide who’s in charge. Fortunately, most people who saw Comey’s interview realise this.

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21 thoughts on “Words from on high

  1. Yup Billy of Ockham
    Trump seems to have convinced or paid lots of very sexy women to have sex with him (or even marry him). I heard he once made a gross remark, something that none of us have ever done, right?

    The Presi before the community organiser has the stench of multiple rape and sexual abuse hanging over him and was protected by his resident hag.

    And Trump is morally unfit?

  2. Comey seems like insufferable twat. I read article a few weeks ago about Comey that said he would tell others to ‘check their moral compass’ when he thought they weren’t making correct decisions. Comey talks muchly about how he’s moral person, a superior human being, which means in reality he quite corrupt.

  3. Trumpy is still giving them a run for his money and frightening the living daylights out of them. They know they are treading a fine line on legality in their attempts to be rid of him but once on this ride they can’t get off and the results could be…..well who knows? not good if it all goes tits up that’s for sure. Conservative treehouse has some good insider (?) info on what may befall what can only be described as conspiritors in an effort to subvert the office of president.

  4. Comey seems like insufferable twat.

    That is what struck me on reading some quotes from the TV interview.

    You’ve got to hand it to the septics. Donald Trump is president and he is a country mile off being the biggest bell end in public life.

  5. They know they are treading a fine line on legality in their attempts to be rid of him but once on this ride they can’t get off

    Like the saying goes, if you’re going to shoot at the king, best not miss.

  6. I would have thought that one of the most desirable characteristics of a person selected to head the FBI is that s/he is discreet, high-minded, and knows which fights to pick. Comey is just ensuring that he will be remembered as the person who was promoted above his abilities.

  7. Conservative treehouse has some good insider (?) info on what may befall what can only be described as conspiritors in an effort to subvert the office of president.

    In an earlier age people were taken out and shot for a fraction of what this lot have done; going back further still, they were hanged, drawn, and quartered.

  8. Trump is a charmless loud mouthed oaf. That much is unarguable, whether or not he turns out to be a good president for both the USA and us is yet to be seen. Comey might be a lot of things but what he said about Trump rang whole lot of bells with me , he has seen this ridiculous creature up close and I believe what he says.
    I have many friends in America ,mostly Republicans and they think Trump is a disgrace to the office, he is.

  9. I have many friends in America ,mostly Republicans and they think Trump is a disgrace to the office, he is.

    Well, yes. But many people disagree, or think the alternative was worse, and the way to get the aggregate opinion is to have an election. They did, and he won.

  10. Just about everyone has seen this “ridiculous creature” up close – for the last 20 years or more – here and across the pond. Ye gods – the man’s been in the public eye (and the tabloids) for decades. But he wasn’t Literally Hitler while he was a New York Democrat, donating to all the right causes and politicians (including the sainted Clintons). He only became the most horrible person evar when he traded the D for an R and ran for president of the USA. Sheesh.

    After the previous 8 years, I personally am kinda glad we got a president who doesn’t appear to hate the country he leads, along with half its people. And after having lived through 8 years of Clinton, well, we were told then it didn’t matter, in regards to the presidency, so why should I care now where the current pres dips his wick?

    As for Comey, I second whoever called him an insufferable twat.

  11. Hyam, and I have lots of republican family and friends who rate Trump highly….do they cancel yours out?

  12. “I have many friends in America ,mostly Republicans and they think Trump is a disgrace to the office, he is.”

    And yet 63 million American voters chose him when they voted.

    And, tellingly, it was the 63 million people who the others have, for decades, ridiculed as having an overdeveloped sexual and social sense of propriety. We were told that Clinton – accused rapist, harasser, thief – was perfectly fit to be President. We were told that the dishonest and racist Obama was perfectly fit to be President.

    There are far too many who turn everyone who disagrees with them on policy into Evil Personified. Those creatures took President GW Bush – as decent and admirable a person as most (and who, as it turned out, had a higher IQ and better grades than all of the saints they offered in comparison) into a public caricature of a venal and stupid stumblebum southern bigot.

    Frankly, given who you would likely consider to be “fit”, I consider your declaration that “Trump is unfit for the office” as a huge recommendation in his favor.

  13. Hi Hyam,

    I see “disgrace to the office” and I read “I didn’t vote for him”.

    I’m genuinely curious if there’s any more substance to your objection to the man other than that.

    What do you reckon, if a different Republican had been voted in would your approbation have been not as great?

    Please pause for introspection before you answer because many of us without a dog in the fight see an awful lot of naked tribalism being presented as objective fact (Comey’s interview being just the latest example).

  14. The Will of the People may put a president in the White House, but it does not confer immunity from accountability. Quite the opposite, I should hope.

  15. but it does not confer immunity from accountability

    Absolutely not. But “morality” is something to be judged by the people at elections, not by self-appointed moral guardians after the event.

  16. Elections only install leaders. They do not magically sanctify them. If “morality” is something to be judged only in four-year intervals rather than each and every waking moment, then you’re clearly using the wrong word.

  17. They do not magically sanctify them.

    Nobody is saying they do, but their morality is judged at the time of election. Sure people’s opinions change, which is why they need to be re-elected every so often. And it’s not like Trump’s morals have changed much since the 1980s, let alone since when he was elected.

  18. The question of what constitutes moral behaviour in a public servant does not somehow cease to be a legitimate topic of discussion in off-election years.

  19. The question of what constitutes moral behaviour in a public servant does not somehow cease to be a legitimate topic of discussion in off-election years.

    Perhaps you’d be better off taking this up with someone who thinks otherwise.

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