Africa Gonna Africa

This doesn’t surprise me much:

SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation.

“The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time for justice,” Mr Malema was quoted by News24 as telling parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

According to Bloomberg, a 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa.

This is South Africa playing catch-up with the rest of the continent. First the white farmers will be forced off their land (they’re already being murdered at an alarming rate, which nobody other than other white farmers seems to care about). Then white-owned business will be targeted, then white-owned houses in cities, and eventually the remaining white population will be killed or sent fleeing by the mob.

What I find ironic is when Donald Trump made his “shithole” remark, many Africans automatically assumed he was talking about their countries. Insofar as he mentioned any specific country, it was Haiti. When Africans show solidarity with Haitians, it’s not difficult to see what is galvanizing them. It’s also not difficult to see what is motivating this latest move in South Africa. Nevertheless, thousands of South Africans – including many middle-class whites living in Cape Town, Durban, and other metropolitan areas – took to Twitter to call Trump a moron, posting pictures of beautiful beaches, elephants in the Kruger National Park, and rolling hills covered in wine grapes. Underneath were captions like:

“You think this is a shithole do you Trump?! Get an education, you imbecile!”

Somehow I don’t think Trump was talking about the beaches. I don’t even think he was talking about Africa in particular. I think he was talking about countries where kleptocratic ruling classes pass laws such as those which allow racist land grabs, denying the owners compensation. The sort of laws which send the country spiraling into ruin, forcing millions to flee. There is a percentage of South Africans – how large I don’t know – that are either deluded or staggeringly stupid. I wonder how many of those who saw fit to denounce Trump as a moron will be standing in line at the US embassy to beg for a visa in a few years as the consequences of their governmen’s policies take proper hold? Quite a few, I’d imagine.

Here’s another prediction. When thousands of whites are forced to flee for their lives from South Africa, all those in the West who have lectured us for years on the moral imperative to accept refugees and economic migrants from the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa will flip 180-degrees and come up with all sorts of reasons why Afrikaaners and British South Africans should not be admitted. We will not see the Pope washing a Boer’s feet, we will not have NGOs ferrying families of emaciated whites from the shores of Libya to the beaches of Italy, and we won’t see American mayors declaring their cities as sanctuaries for white Africans and refusing to cooperate with federal law enforcement, nor will the British government refrain from ascertaining people’s ages before allowing white South Africans to settle as children in the UK. Legal and practical obstacles to the migration of persecuted whites will be raised after government-funded bodies raise concerns over the economic, cultural, and social impact of the new arrivals.

The reason for this sudden change in attitude will be down to one reason, and one reason only: they are white, and therefore not welcome in the eyes of the ruling classes. Where they will go is anyone’s guess, but they might want to start learning Polish or Russian.

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44 thoughts on “Africa Gonna Africa

  1. Yup. And whitey was somewhat capable of running farms / businesses. Non-whitey is going to be alot hungrier.

  2. “When thousands of whites are forced to flee for their lives from South Africa, all those in the West who have lectured us for years on the moral imperative to accept refugees and economic migrants from the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa will flip 180-degrees and come up with all sorts of reasons why Afrikaaners and British South Africans should not be admitted. We will not see the Pope washing a Boer’s feet, we will not have NGOs ferrying families of emaciated whites from the shores of Libya to the beaches of Italy …”
    Got it in one, old boy. And who is going to dare to be publicly outraged about it? Yet these are precisely the sort of productive and potentially economically viable people Europe should be welcoming, not the uneducated, ineducable, ungrateful and violent.

  3. I have already decided that when South Africa inevitably ends up in the same situation as Zimbabwe, my sympathy will be unforthcoming. Likewise my money, as my wallet shall remain firmly closed. They made their beds; they can lie in them.

  4. Somewhat related, Trevor Noah was on Comedians in Cars getting (buying, surely?) Coffee with Seinfeld.

    I didn’t know who he was but was confused by his “when we were living under apartheid” schtick, so googled him.

    He was born in 1984.

    Apartheid ended in 1991.

    Nelson Mandela became president when Trevor was 10.

    Riiiight.

  5. Another point: what happens to all the loans secured against land? Will the new owners take on the debt associated with their recently expropriated land? Will the government pay off such debts? Or will banks simply have to stomach X million rand wiped off their balance sheets?

  6. Another point: what happens to all the loans secured against land?

    I suspect the government hasn’t even considered it. I suspect the banks will just have to swallow it.

  7. @Tom – Printing lots more currency to cover the loans is bound to be part of the plan. It always is.

  8. Glad I left when I did.

    William of Ockham. Trevor Noah is just another bore, about as funny as a burning orphanage. I note that South Africa is so great he chooses to live in the US. At least there he is less likely to be murdered in his own home by one of his rainbow nation brothers.

  9. I worked in SA for a bit in the 1990s. What many don’t realise is the general antipathy the Afrikaners and British South Africans felt for each other. The former were much more rooted in the country than the latter and both sides knew it. Afrikaners did not see themselves as Dutch any more. It does not surprise me that the urban whites (largely British South Africans) don’t protest about the treatment of Afrikaner farmers. They have little sympathy for them and imagine that Black majority see them as different. A rude awakening awaits.
    I agree with your prediction

  10. What many don’t realise is the general antipathy the Afrikaners and British South Africans felt for each other.

    Indeed, the few British South Africans I’ve met took great pains to tell me they weren’t Afrikaaner. Although one of them had married a stripper, had named his daughter from a previous marriage “London”, and had it tattooed on his torso.

  11. There were cases in the papers where farmers displaced from Zimbabwe couldn’t get help in the UK cos they were British Overseas Citizens and hence not eligable for asylum in the UK. Nor recourse to welfare while they got their lives back together.

  12. I think there might still be hope. A constitutional amendment needs to happen. My blood is boiling about this how can people be so stupid.? Something other african countries are moving away from ? I get tired of that stupid continent sometimes

  13. If they follow Mr Ebagum’s methods there’ll be mass starvation in ten years or sooner.

  14. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”

    Presumably, the black South Africans who live there are all descended from the original inhabitants, and it is only the whites who did the land-stealing?

  15. Have you seen story about how Cape Town is going to run out of water by july and both national and local politicians are refusing to accept israeli help and technology to produce potable water because they all racist marxists who support palestinians.

    Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I don’t understand how it is possible for population to support their politicians, there should be rioting in streets to protest against their different levels of incompetent governments.

  16. “Where they will go is anyone’s guess, but they might want to start learning … Russian”

    Yup, they will certainly make excellent material for the next wave of resettlement to GULAG, what with not only being “kulak” but also speaking a foreign language and therefore being obvious spies.

  17. Zimbabwe went from breadbasket to basket case pretty quickly. Looks like South Africa, an otherwise resource rich country, is going to go the same way as Chad, the Central African Republic, Congo, Ethiopia, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Sudan, Zimbabwe to name but a few. Only a handful of African states like Ghana, Benin, Botswana, Gabon, Algeria and Morocco seem to be exempt, at least according to the most recent index of failed states.

    I note the ‘prosperous land of Wakanda’ isn’t on that list, but that’s an imaginary country created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Neither of whom are darker skinned than Justin Trudeau.

  18. anon 10.53–Go fuck yourself.

    They fought for the land and they won. Their only mistake was listening to bullshit from White Western leftist scum. Apartheit would have died the death as a black middle class grew up.

    And what’s happening to them is going to happen to us. Not, you SJW scumbag, because we made our beds, but because we failed to smash the scum of the left when we had the chance.

    We should start up help for white SA –and their black allies–for they will have plenty who are sick of the ANC and Marxism in general–to fight and take the country back. They could still do it.

  19. I lost any interest in South Africa when one of their white people I knew called Obama the greatest US president of all time. At that point I knew the rainbow nation was not going to find any pot of gold.

  20. I remember in the early 70s when Lebanon was held out as a shining example to South Africa of a successful multicultural society, in the early 80s it as Yugoslavia, always by informed Westerners who really meant well but hadn’t got to gripswith South Africa’s complexity. Together with fellow students tried to imagine what “come the revolution” would look like. None of us imagined it would be quite so bourgeois.
    South Africa remains a functioning democracy(just) and the ruling ANC remains in power(just) after the disasters of the profoundly unpopular Zuma, its electoral base eroded to the left by Malema and his EFF who conform to every stereotype of populist oratory on the Mugabe model. Ramaphosa may be president but he is not yet secure and must still host a contingent of parasites formerly loyal to Zuma. This measure will fail at the constitutional court level a couple of years down the line but has bought him much needed time.

    He is the first president not to have been part of the external ANC who were conventionally Marxist Leninist and paranoid. He is the first president to understand South Africa as a modern economy(he was a trade union negotiator for the National Union of Mineorkers in the 80s ). He has built himself a vast palace in the most exclusive part of Cape Town so will not, unlike Zuma, be willing to see the Cape fail.

    As regards agriculture, its contribution to GDP has fallen from 4.5% in 1994 to 3% in 2016. The economy is modern and urban. Whereas large areas are suitable for stockfarming( white or black) at a low intensity due to arid conditions, the wine areas and fruitproducers have a long history and no Bantu connection, after three hundred years it’s hard to find a rightful Khoisan heir with connections and credentials. Wheat and maize production have anyhow fallen as imports are cheaper.
    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2018-03-01-op-ed-farming-is-not-what-it-used-to-be/#.Wpl2NOaxWhA

    In summary this is a feint to ward off attacks from the left until the administration can be cleansed of Zuma holdovers, not a Zimbabwe rerun. Post apartheid whites with skills and capital have done rather well. Many have sought alternative passports and homelands for their children but the writing on the wall remains illegible.

  21. “Their only mistake was listening to bullshit from White Western leftist scum.”

    Their mistake was to give in to the threats of the US government. Those are what settled the business.

    Or, having given in collectively, their mistake individually was to fail to sell up and flee immediately.

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  23. A terrible shame. South Africa was a great country; I rather hoped that it would muddle through, but the ANC apes will destroy in a generation what took a dozen to build.

    I don’t think there is a solution going forward. With hindsight, what ought to have been done? Go back to the 1800s and tell British/Dutch settlers not to fall in to the cheap labour trap? Shooting every Marxist? Establishing “independent homelands” for as many blacks as could be managed, so the rest of them had a chance to maintain a civilisation?

    I have occasionally joked with people that optimum time to visit SA would be shortly before it collapsed, when the Rand was weak as fuck but civilisation remained. Not much of a joke and it seems that ideal time was my last visit earlier this year…

  24. Mr Ecks, 4.13 PM – I shall ignore the vulgarity which you started your post with, because I think you’ve misunderstood my position. I admit that I should have phrased my original post in a less ambiguous manner. I’m no SJW, indeed I’m very much on your side; we’re singing from the same hymn sheet, as it were. What’s happened in Zimbabwe, and currently happening in South Africa is disgraceful. I’m not at all knocking white South Africans or black South Africans who are just as sick of what’s going on, and are trying desperately to get Western media interested in the situation, but the ruling ANC.

    And when I say “my sympathy will be unforthcoming, likewise my money”, and “they’ve made their beds, and they should lie in them” I’m referring to the particular scenario outlined by Tim in his first paragraph. Should the whites (and the blacks in SA who aren’t accommodating to the demands of the ANC) leave the country (either of their own accord, or because they’ve been thrown out of it) or, worse still, end up murdered, and the result is South Africa becomes Zimbabwe 2.0 through the actions of the ANC and their supporters, you just know various actor-vists, professional Twitter leftists, and some aid agencies will claim that it’s an awful humanitarian crisis to which I should donate money. If that comes to pass, (I very much hope that it does not, for what it’s worth) then I won’t shy away from telling them to shove it, that it’s a self-inflicted wound (hence my “made the beds” comment) and they won’t receive a penny from me.

    I trust that clears things up?

  25. “All South Africans are settlers, regardless of their skin colour, and their DNA carries the proof.”

    “Where is the archaeological proof that blacks ‘settled’ South Africa?

    Apart from a few scattered archaeological remains found of black culture in the far northern Transvaal prior to 1652, it is generally agreed that blacks and whites were contemporary settlers of South Africa.”

    “The Arabs settled North Africa soon after the Prophet Mohammed died and the whites settled Southern Africa from 1652 onwards. Today there are three Africas as Dr. Eschel Rhoodie calls it in his book “The Third Africa” (1968)… Arabic up north, Black in the centre and Whites at the south…

    The white settlers of the Cape first came face to face with the Bantu around 1770 on the banks of the Great Fish River, 120 years after Van Riebeeck came to the Cape and 1000 km east of Cape Town.”

  26. Whatever happens…China will sort out the message in SA. S Africans will end up with a new master, may end up wishing for the good old days, who knows

  27. “it is generally agreed that blacks and whites were contemporary settlers of South Africa”: so the Bushmen and Hottentots were non-persons, were they?

  28. “anon 10.53–Go fuck yourself.”

    I think you ought to re-read that comment. And then maybe apologize.

  29. Africa and Africans either at home or abroad blight everything they touch, I loathe the place and the people and have yet to meet an exception to change my opinion, as for the SA whites I fear the worst and hope somewhere there will be a home for them (N.Z. ?)

  30. Ljh is right – this isn’t really what it seems and there is a lot of unjustified panic in the comments here.

    I think SA is in danger of following the Zimbabwe path over the long term. Zuma made a good few strides in that direction.

    But I can promise you right now that very few people in SA take this threat of land expropriation without compensation seriously in the mid-term. It has been an ANC policy for a years in theory, to please the black leftist base, and every so often some legislative or administrative initiative pops up that makes it look like they want to do something. Usually before an election (and guess what’s coming next year…)

    But at the senior levels the ANC don’t actually have much interest in this, and they have placed plenty of roadblocks in the way that stopped anything meaningful happening. For example, they accept the principle but adopt no policy on practical implementation. Or they accept the principle, but also require a survey of land ownership that took over a decade to materialise. Or they create a policy about a tiny area of land and let the courts strike it down as unconstitutional. It sounds a bit ridiculous but that’s politics.

    So almost everyone locally is pretty sure that it will be the same this time, which is why there is weirdly little fuss about it all.

    Now, one day this might change. Possibly when the ANC get kicked out and if the EFF get voted in. Or a new regime takes over the ANC. But for now you can chill with the Zimbabwe talk.

  31. Agree with Oblong.

    SA depends mightily upon foreign investment. There’s a ton of it there now, and Ramaphosa’a election has only increased the flow. They’re calling it the Ramaphosa bubble.

    He’s actually not as bad a choice as this one headline makes it seem. But he campaigned as if he supported it, and he needs to make some people happy before settling down (I think) into a more pragmatic economic leader.

    I’m guessing there will be some loud cases of confiscation where the history of the present ownership is the most egregious, but then it quietly dies. Ramaphosa needs happy investors.

    ETA: Read his Wikipedia entry. He’s a solid guy.

  32. Thanks LJH and Oblong for providing the contrarian view…I am sure you now more about South Africa than I do, and you may well be right. My concerns though are when you say things like this:

    But I can promise you right now that very few people in SA take this threat of land expropriation without compensation seriously in the mid-term. It has been an ANC policy for a years in theory, to please the black leftist base, and every so often some legislative or administrative initiative pops up that makes it look like they want to do something. Usually before an election (and guess what’s coming next year…)

    He is the first president to understand South Africa as a modern economy(he was a trade union negotiator for the National Union of Mineorkers in the 80s ). He has built himself a vast palace in the most exclusive part of Cape Town so will not, unlike Zuma, be willing to see the Cape fail.

    This is what people say every single time a new, relatively unknown leader bursts onto the scene who goes on to take the country even further down the plughole: oh, he’s not like that, he’s different, he’s not your typical X, Y, and Z leader. And in any case, what he’s proposing is nothing new, it’s just to appease the hardliners, once they’ve got some meat to chew on you’ll see he’s really a moderate. Every single time.

    SA depends mightily upon foreign investment. There’s a ton of it there now, and Ramaphosa’a election has only increased the flow. They’re calling it the Ramaphosa bubble.

    And how much foreign investment was there in Venezuela? How much did Venezuela need foreign investment? Did that stop a kleptocratic populist taking charge and wrecking the place? No, because such people only care about themselves and their tribe: provided they have enough food, guns, and money they don’t need any foreign investment.

    I may be wrong on the timeline – perhaps the catastrophe won’t occur in my lifetime – but I am 100% sure the end result in South Africa will be as I’ve described it.

  33. I wonder what the likelihood of a breakup of the Union of South Africa is, maybe the western Cape’s independence movement could lead to refuge for the Boers and other non black ethnic groups?

  34. One of the big problems that no one wants to address (It’s racist, “you can’t say that”, La La La I can’t hear you) is that South Africa has an average IQ of 77 and I wonder how much of that is boosted by the whites there.

    For S.A’s immediate neighbours, Mozambique has an IQ average of 64, Zimbabwe 82, Botswana 70, Namibia 74.

    In other words, in the West they would be considered mentally retarded. The hard fact is that you need a base line IQ of above 80 is needed for a modern country to function.

    Add in a tribal mentality and leaders that have developed professional victimhood to a fine art, then I agree with Tim that the outlook is not good.

    Albert Einstein did NOT say that the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The experiment of booting the whites off their land, killing them and not bothering to investigate or bring the perpetrators to justice has been tried enough times to convince the most sceptical that it won’t end well.

    Another of the BIG problems is that people tend to believe that others are just like themselves. That is most definitely NOT the case with Africa. Their thought processes are different, their belief system is different and their respect for life and Western rights is utterly, utterly different. Optimistically hoping that they will behave like Europeans doesn’t cut the mustard on that score.

    No S.A. is comprehensively fucked. Just like a car that is driving down an motorway at 70MPH and the engine dumps itself through the sump, it will roll along for a while and still look like it is functional but it is only a matter of time.

  35. I am sitting on an aircraft on the strip out of Johannesburg bound for Miuscat, four weeks into my two night visit to Singapore. Yes it’s bad here but there is an angle, I was with some good guys this week and they are okay with it all and are bringing the cattle back to there land to designate it as food producing. There is more, let’s just see what happens.

  36. Tim Newman, you miss the point of Cyril Ramaphosa. He is a known. He was Mandela’s choice as vice president but instead the ANC thrust the chosen one ,Mbeki, who left South Africa in the early 60s to study first at Sussex University then Patrice Lumumba in Moscow, into place. I don’t think Mbeki has yet returned intellectually to South Africa which is why he made such a hash of it.

    CR is the first leader to represent the foment of ideas from within the South Africa of the 70s and 80s. It is an industrial economy not an agricultural/resource economy like the rest of Africa.

    The problem with resistance to Mugabe was that the MDC was urban and modern in an economy that was largely rural and agricultural. Zuma came to power with the support of the dwindling rural/tribal constituency.

    Most South Africans of whatever colour are urban, do not wish to return to the land their ancestors are buried upon, do not wish to be agricultural labourers(often replaced by Zimbabwean migrants)

    Ramaphosa has gone from trade unionist, to draftsman of the constitution to businessman and understands ordinary people’s hopes, aspirations and the means to them better than any leader since Smuts. He has a formidable task given the entrenched corruption of the Zuma years in his own party, the civil service and parastatals. I firmly believe this is a flanking manoeuvre necessary to give him breathing space for reform.

  37. There’s a lot of romantic nonsense about Afrikaner farmers doing the rounds. The Afrikaans Nationalists were an unpleasant bunch drawing on a preEnlightenment Reformation view of the world, resistant to innovation, belligerent, blinkered and anticapitalist by sentiment. The modern economy was built despite not because of them. PW Botha stepping down just as we were going to hell in a handcart was a moment that felt very similar to Zuma being removed.

  38. Yesterday I was talking to a technology economist who works for the UN. She’d recently been giving some speeches on technology economics in Africa, been meeting with lots of civil servants and government ministers.

    One thing she had been trying to ram down their throats was that they had to get a bloody move on with their development, or else they are stuffed forever. Advances in automation, AI, precision engineering, customisation and so on are closing off the door to the “cheap labour mass-producing initially cheap tat then moving up the value chain” approach that lifted much of Asia out of poverty.

    For all the gloomy prognostications about South Africa, it has at least got itself up and running in the development and industrialisation race, and has some semblance of a route forward. Fingers crossed it gets taken rather than a Venezuelan-style self-imposed reversal. Total social collapse is more likely in those countries that haven’t outgrown agrarianism…

  39. “dearieme on March 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm said:
    “it is generally agreed that blacks and whites were contemporary settlers of South Africa”: so the Bushmen and Hottentots were non-persons, were they?”

    The point made was they had tiny populations on the edge of what is now SA. Most of it was empty and blacks from very far north of them started migrating into SA around the same time Europeans arrived.

  40. Marck: the presence of Bantu settlement in the north and east of the country dates at least to 1000AD, the physical relics being stonewalls, linked to the Tswana and Sotho over much of the Highveld and the gold mines at Mapungubwe linked to Monomotapa in Zimbabwe. The southern and westward expansion could not take place because of the physical boundaries of semidesert(the Karoo), separated by extremely rugged mountains from the impenetrable forest of the Tsistikama. The Bantu tribes were pastoralists who also depended on summer rainfall crops like sorghum and later maize. The change in climatic zones to erratic then winter rainfall areas occurs more or less near the Fish River beyond which they only ventured in good years.
    The consolidation of Nguni tribes into the Zulu confederation who conducted annual pillage raids is responsible for the depopulation and extreme disruption at the beginning of the 19th century is what enabled the Boers to move into the interior of the country and found their republics with relative ease, avoiding the Zulu heartland in Natal. This period of genocidal warfare over decades disrupted the whole of eastern southern africa as far north as Zambia and Malawi.

  41. dearieme on March 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm said:

    “it is generally agreed that blacks and whites were contemporary settlers of South Africa”: so the Bushmen and Hottentots were non-persons, were they?

    The Bantu settlers were just as efficient as the Whites in exterminating the aboriginal population.

    In the early 19th century, the massive internecine wars between Black tribes over living space are today called “Difeqane” or “The Threshing.” Shaka king of the Zulus kicked Msilikatse out of the present KwaZulu Natal. After seeing off rival nations, Msilikatse made his headquarters right here where I now sit, in Northcliff Johannesburg. Any of his lieutenants who looked like getting too ambitious were encouraged to learn to fly from the top of the Northcliff mountain, which I can see right now if I look up from my computer and out the window. Life in the hood was getting tough so Msilikatse migrated again, to southern Zimbabwe, exterminating the existing local tribes to make space for his own. South African Blacks weren’t by any means a monolithic tribal culture living in a happy pastoral utopia, when Whites started moving north from the Cape.

    Virtue signalling is extremely popular among wealthier and more intellectual South African Whites. Let a fellow White use the K word and they will hiss and boo as loudly as anyone else. We’ve just got rid of a kleptocrat president, although most of his cronies are still in place, but the White hypocrites totally backed kleptocrat Hillary Clinton. Trump is naturally a dirty word around here, because we have to ingratiate ourselves with our Black rulers. There’s as much Trump Derangement Syndrome as you’d find anywhere else on the planet.

    Land expropriation without compensation: will it happen, probably. On what scale, uncertain. Will it be disastrous for the country, definitely. I told my kids a long time ago to get out and start again somewhere else, which is the same advice I would give to any Black under forty. They didn’t listen, so it’s their bad luck. I don’t have much longer to live and it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other.

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