20,000 people scared of Trump

Sometimes I wonder if the authors of these articles sit back and read what they’ve just written.  From the BBC:

Concerns over a Trump presidency are set to dominate the early days of global climate talks in Morocco.

Some 20,000 participants will meet in Marrakech for two weeks, starting on Monday, to agree new rules to limit warming on the planet.

Signed by 193 countries in the French capital last December, the Paris Agreement is now international law, having been ratified by at least 55 countries representing over 55% of global emissions.

20,000 participants from 193 countries?  That’s over 100 delegates per country.  Are you sure they’re coming to reach an agreement?

Earlier this year Mr Trump said he would “cancel” the Paris agreement if elected. The deal was “bad for US business” and would allow “foreign bureaucrats control over how much energy we use”, he said.

Trump is probably as clueless on climate change as everything else, but you don’t need to know a damned thing about science to see that 20,000 people turning up in Marrakech doesn’t have much to do with mitigating the effects of climate change.

Concern over the rise of Mr Trump helped galvanise the global push to bring the Paris agreement into force. Now that it is operational and binding on countries, taking the US out of the deal would not be easy.

Trump’s support is made up largely of those who are utterly fed up of unaccountable, corrupt elites running things for their own benefit and to the detriment of the common man.  Stuff like this is hardly going to persuade them they’re mistaken.

However Mr Trump, who calls climate change a “hoax”, has vowed to cancel the deal if elected.

“The Paris agreement prohibits any exit for a period of three years, plus a year-long notice period, so there will be four stable years,” said Segolene Royal, the French environment minister who played a role in negotiating the treaty.

These lot haven’t quite got the measure of Trump yet, have they?

While Mr Trump would not be able to withdraw easily from Paris, his scepticism about climate science and his determination to revive the coal industry put him at odds with most international leaders.

“Electing a climate science conspiracy theorist like Trump would make America a global laughing stock and embarrassment, all the while relinquishing our leadership role in the world,” said Khalid Potts from US environmental group, the Sierra Club.

“The ice caps don’t negotiate, and neither do rising seas. Donald Trump’s moral failure to acknowledge the climate crisis might very well mean planetary disaster if he is elected.”

Damned electorate.  They get in the way of everything, don’t they?

One issue that could see sparks fly is the question of loss and damage. The question of compensation for the long term impacts of climate change is one of the most contentious as poor countries see it as a moral obligation of the rich, while the developed world is extremely wary of establishing a legal liability for the damage caused by their greenhouse gas emissions.

Would the USA – and by extension its taxpayers – be among those with a “moral obligation” to cough up under this agreement, then?  Good job they’ve been locked in and have no choice in the matter then, eh?

The most amusing thing about this is the BBC probably thinks Americans will read this and be persuaded not to vote for Trump.

Share

12 thoughts on “20,000 people scared of Trump

  1. They keep calling this thing a treaty. It’s not a treaty – there are no legal sanctions for non-compliance – otherwise the US would have never signed it. There was a big furore over the word ‘shall’ in the document which was eventually changed to ‘should’ (advised but not legally binding).

    A President Trump could cancel the US involvement in this farce the same way Obama got them into it – with a simple executive order.

  2. PeteC,

    A President Trump could cancel the US involvement in this farce the same way Obama got them into it – with a simple executive order.

    Quite, but he’d not even need to do that: he could just stop the US from cooperating. Even if legal sanctions were in place, what could anyone do? The US gets no benefits from this deal, but they’re expected to pay out. Short of the IPCC mounting an invasion of the US, what can they do if Trump just doesn’t bother answering his phone?

  3. Trump’s support is made up largely of those who are utterly fed up of unaccountable, corrupt elites running things for their own benefit and to the detriment of the common man.

    Yes.

  4. The one thing I most love about these ‘agreements’ on global whining hysteria is that most of the signatories — flown in at great public expense in luxury planes and housed in the sort of hotel you and I couldn’t afford — not only have no knowledge of real science (I mean, declaring carbon dioxide a poison when it is an integral element of the cycle of, er, getting oxygen and plant life. Really?) but none of the countries ‘agreeing’ to any of it will abide by it if they think they can gain. They really are examples of ‘you better do as I say, not as I do.’

    But at least it gives Al-beeb and the Groaniad the chance to make noises instead of reporting reality.

  5. But at least it gives Al-beeb and the Groaniad the chance to make noises instead of reporting reality.

    And a chance to be “flown in at great public expense in luxury planes and housed in the sort of hotel you and I couldn’t afford”.

  6. If the Donald has worked out that Global Warming is a hoax he is no fool, even without considering how far he has come.

  7. According to the latest Gallop poll, Trump is with the majority of yanks when it comes to the threat on man made global warming.

    “However, the data also suggest that Americans do not consider global warming to represent a real danger at present. For example, only four Americans in ten, 41%, think global warming is occurring now, down from 60% in a 1992 poll conducted at the time of the environmental summit in Rio de Janeiro.”

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/4300/public-concerned-alarmed-about-global-warming.aspx

  8. Oh and its been some time since I was in Marrakesh but do they have enough hotel beds in town for an additional 20,000 Warmists?

  9. Jeff Wood,

    If the Donald has worked out that Global Warming is a hoax he is no fool, even without considering how far he has come.

    If he says the actual warming is a hoax…well, he might be right.

    If he’s saying the entire global warming phenomenon whereby 20,000 people show up in Morocco to determine which taxpayers and energy consumers get fleeced is a hoax then he is absolutely spot on.

    It has long been a tactic of the global warming crowd to accuse anyone who questions the politics around it and the massive gravy train it has turned into as being in denial of the science. Personally I believe the science is bogus (why else would people be so secretive about their methods) but that’s actually irrelevant: the science was always the excuse, bogus or not.

  10. @ Bardon,

    Oh and its been some time since I was in Marrakesh but do they have enough hotel beds in town for an additional 20,000 Warmists?

    Yeah, I thought that. Maybe they’ll erect some tents in the desert. Or maybe the BBC is out by an order of magnitude. Wouldn’t be the first time.

Comments are closed.