Women Attacking Men

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In August last year I spent a few days on the Greek island of Mykonos with a couple of Greek fellas (ooh-er). Mykonos is a popular holiday destination for mainland Europeans, particularity young Scandinavians, and at one point I was propping up the bar in a crowded nightclub when a small but angry-looking woman around 20 years of age tried to jam herself into a space beside me. I suppose I could have stood elsewhere but there was very little room where people weren’t jostling one another or leaping about to the music. Her first approach was to try to shove me out the way, and when I didn’t budge (I’m around 90kg) she snarled in a Scandinavian accent: “Can you move, I’m trying to get a drink.” If she’d said “excuse me” to begin with I’d have given her all the room she needed, but her whole attitude reeked of Nordic feminism and the delusions of power which many young women have, born of their ability to wrap their male peers around their little fingers.

So my response was to say “You need to learn some manners,” and stay where I was. She immediately started elbowing me and shoving me, and eventually I shifted six inches to the right, not being willing to let this nonsense continue any more. She squeezed into the space I allowed, and simmered. From what I could tell she was in the company of a few young men and women, the former of which looked like replicas of Owen Jones. And as I sipped my drink I wondered which idiotic society teaches young women to get into physical confrontations with large men in foreign bars. I suspect she knew I wasn’t the type to belt her one, and the club we were in not the sort of place where such men hang out, but still.

I was reminded of this incident when I saw this video:

Whatever the woman’s grievance, and regardless of the wimpishness of the bloke she’s up against, striking the first blow in what was up until that point a verbal confrontation is astonishingly stupid. Clearly she was confident that her homeboy would jump in as soon as it kicked off, and indeed he did, but she can perhaps count herself lucky she’s not needing reconstructive surgery.

Grown men are dangerous beasts, and really shouldn’t be provoked. Most men know this which is why they avoid physical confrontations as soon as they’re old enough to possess a smidgen of wisdom. A grown man, even a late teen, is capable of battering another man to death and in the overwhelming majority of cases a man could easily kill a woman with his bare hands if he so desired. At the very least, he could beat her to the point she’d carry the physical and emotional trauma for the rest of her life. The reason why domestic violence against women is so abhorrent (leaving aside, for now, the fact that many men are also victims) is the disparity in physical power.

Yet there is an increasing number of women who seem to think provoking, or even initiating, physical confrontations with strange men is a good idea. Judging by the videos that circulate on social media, sassy young black women in the UK and US enjoy threat-laden shouting matches with men on public transport, followed by a fight  where they throw the first punch or slap. Although it’s interesting to note, they only do this with white men, never blacks or hispanics. I also noticed that while Nigerian women didn’t mind yelling at their male counterparts in public, you didn’t see them looking to provoke a physical confrontation: there was no getting in their face yelling threats, and the verbals were carried out without entering the man’s personal space. I expect this is because any Nigerian woman who goes around picking fights with men would wind up dead in short order. Russian women are also fully aware of how dangerous their menfolk can be, and few are stupid enough to start a fight in public. It’s almost as if men in London and New York, particularly white men, can be relied upon not to kill or maim a woman who’s attacking them and this has given violently aggressive women confidence.

I expect this is what was behind the Scandinavian girl trying to barge me out the way. She’s used to dealing with men who’ve been emasculated by several generations of hardcore feminism, demanding her own way and getting it every time. TV and film doesn’t help: seemingly every other production features a slip of a woman beating up men three times their size with a series of deft martial arts moves, and I’m wondering if the new generation of empowered young women are starting to think it’s real. If their fathers and brothers had any sense they’d be teaching them to never, ever get into a physical confrontation with a man because with relatively little effort he could put her in hospital for weeks. Women used to know this, and now they don’t; it will cost some of them dearly.

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24 thoughts on “Women Attacking Men”

  1. I must say that such beaviour from women is extremely uncommon also in Scandinavia. I can imagine that what you tell is a true story, but it’s not really representative.

    Do British lower-class people (male and female) behave in the same way in Britain as they do in Mediterranean holiday resorts? I mean completely unreasonable drinking, arrogance and belligerence? I can imagine that they do it to some extent (it’s almost 30 years since I last visited Britain) but they still aren’t nearly as bad as that when they are home and not consuming lots of cheap alcohol round the clock.

  2. I must say that such beaviour from women is extremely uncommon also in Scandinavia.

    Interesting! Although are you including Finland in this? Wars have started over less!*

    Do British lower-class people (male and female) behave in the same way in Britain as they do in Mediterranean holiday resorts? I mean completely unreasonable drinking, arrogance and belligerence?

    Yes, but to a lesser extent. I don’t know Scandinavia well, but I have heard the behaviour of Norwegians (men and women) when they get drunk isn’t good, and starts to resemble that of Brits. I was also told it’s much worse when they’re abroad.

    *The working class Finnish men have a reputation in some circles of being hard bastards, of the sort sensible women and men would not seek to provoke.

  3. I don’t see that the video makes the point you’re after Tim, unless I misunderstood it (the point or the video).

    I saw a black woman attacking a white woman, and then, borderline-unrelated, a black man attacking a white man. Not sure what the hell happened really – apparently someone threw a sandwich? – but I didn’t see anything to indicate the two whites even knew each other.

    Plus, the black woman won the fight!

  5. I saw a black woman attacking a white woman

    Wait, that’s a woman? Oh yes, so it is. How did I miss that? Perhaps because she was a head taller than everyone else. Oh well.

    Perhaps the lesson here is the white guy should have told his woman to go and sit down and belt up, regardless of who was at fault, in order to avoid getting his own arse kicked. Men used to understand this, too.

  6. Note the reaction to the girl attacking the guy vs the reaction to the guy responding.

    Yup. She tried to kick him in the balls, what did she expect him to do? The white-knighters ought to consider that for a moment.

    Look at this video too.

  7. I’m trying to think what my dad (born 1913, working class) would have done if a woman attacked him. I think he would have just allowed her to hit him, as to retaliate in kind would have been shameful. He wasn’t a soft emasculated man; he just had a very strong code of acceptable behaviour in public. I wonder whether some women have always been prone to this sort of thing, but they are out on public transport more and we can film the mad ones when they kick off.

  8. Pekka Taipale: “Do British lower-class people (male and female) behave in the same way in Britain as they do in Mediterranean holiday resorts?”

    Yes, I’m afraid they do. There are no longer the social stigmas that prevent them from doing so.

  9. I wonder whether some women have always been prone to this sort of thing, but they are out on public transport more and we can film the mad ones when they kick off.

    My guess is the latter, based on the fact I’ve not seen much of it in the developing world. Like lots of things, it seems to be confined to rich, western countries subject to nationwide social experiments.

  10. Yes, I’m afraid they do. There are no longer the social stigmas that prevent them from doing so.

    Julia lives in Essex, hence she knows of what she speaks.

  11. It goes beyond getting beaten up in some cases. Entitled young women feel safe where they really shouldn’t and end up getting raped and murdered in places like Lebanon or Thailand or India (to reference at least three cases in the press in recent months). Beirut is not Bristol and dressing up and going for a night out is not necessarily a sensible thing to do at all.

  12. I worked in venues and clubs for 30 years and saw female violence rise considerably over the years until over the last few years we always employed one or two rather large handy lasses on each door (Maori twins come to mind). As a man it was quite easy to restrain most of the individuals if they attempted to assault staff or customers but on occasion stronger measures were sadly called for, some women barely qualified as female.

  13. The whole question of female instigated violence on males is being researched, as it should be, but is generally ignored by all our betters. There is only one side to this story as far as the MSM and the left are concerned.

    The figures for instigation (I remember seeing a meta-study of over 200 localised studies, of domestic violence in the States but can’t find it now) are only slightly ‘in favour’ (hmm) of males. The problem that instigating women have is when the male responds and the advantage they have is that generally men don’t.

    Even a weed like me (80 kilos) could take out 95% (oh, alright only 90%) of unarmed (and I don’t mean armless nor harmless) women with just a couple of whacks.

    Allied to this, the psychological violence that a goodly proportion of women apply, to each other but particularly to men, the empowerment issue and the lack of behavioural restraints we now see is a powerful cocktail which in the long-term ain’t gonna help the ladies at all.

  16. I think the only long term solution is to give women equality. Good and hard.

    The reason men, as a gender, are superior in so many aspects of life is the same reason a beaten street dog is tougher than a kept poodle.

    With the coming advent of cloning and artificial wombs I welcome the fairer sex to the rough and tumble life of being personally – physically – accountable for your actions.

  17. Sam Vara,

    “I wonder whether some women have always been prone to this sort of thing, but they are out on public transport more and we can film the mad ones when they kick off.”

    Its always gone on whenever alcohol was involved.

    When I was 11 (1967) my father took over a pub on the edge of a sink estate in Huddersfield. For the first few months my Friday and Saturday night entertainment was to sit at the lounge window, which was above the entrance, at closing time (10:30 plus 10 minutes drinking up time and no messing) and watch the women goading men to have fights. Their behaviour, from what I remember was not dissimilar to those women in the Belfast video, maybe even worse. I don’t remember any woman hitting a man so I can’t say what would happen, but I suspect she’d have come off second best very quickly and then the other men would have turned on him.

    The reason it only lasted a couple of months was that my father eventually got the excuse bar the all worst offenders and the rest quickly moderated their excesses, not least because when he barred someone it was for as long as his name was over the door.

    After 3 years he moved to a pub in Pickering and I don’t remember anything like that happening there, even when I started drinking and got first hand experience.

  19. “…her whole attitude reeked of Nordic feminism and the delusions of power which many young women have, born of their ability to wrap their male peers around their little fingers.”

    Nordic feminism is part of millenial entitlement…. Today, my wife and I caught a ferry from Milos to Piraeus. In the boarding area, my wife wanted to sit down; but two German girls in their early 20s had placed their backpacks on the only available bench. The girls were standing beside the bench, scrolling through their phones. Not wishing to disturb them, my wife gently moved the straps of the nearer backpack and perched herself on the end of the bench. Result: two intensely irritated German girls.They said nothing but scowled and one edged so close to my wife that her phone was touching my wife’s hair. My wife was not intimidated and the girls backed off. Later, it became apparent that they didn’t want to put their expensive backpacks on the ground….

  20. The Irish video is a doozy! I would be interested to know what exactly was going through the minds of those harridans when they attacked the bouncer. Just vodka probably; you’d think after he sent them all reeling with a couple of shoves they’d realise it was all a bad idea.

    I love the old chap in the flat cap who wanders in and out of shot, with an air of bemusement! I bet he’ll be drinking at his local this weekend…

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  24. I don’t disagree with your post but quite a few of the commenters here seem quite gleeful about the idea of women in general getting the crap beaten out of them, whether they instigated it or not. An average of two women a week are murdered by their male partner or ex in most western countries and this isn’t a particularly recent development.

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