Sex Pests in Schools

I met up with an old friend yesterday, the only person I’m in touch with since my schooldays. We went to a private school, the kind people send their kids to in order to provide them with the vital networking opportunities that will set them up for life. My friend works as a personal bodyguard for rich and famous people, and before that he was a mercenary.  If somebody is threatening you and you want them duffed up, he’s the man to call. A handy chap to know by all accounts, but possibly not the sort of contact the parents of Tarquin and Jeremy have in mind when they fork out £30k per year each. He was a good friend to me though, and still is.

As we were chatting about our time in school he mentioned one of the teachers had been jailed for child abuse. This didn’t surprise me in the least. Although he was convicted for crimes he committed in schools prior to joining ours, there were always rumours surrounding him and he exhibited odd behaviour. There was some substance to the rumours too, because just before I left he was swiftly but quietly removed from his post for inappropriate conduct with a boy, who complained to his parents. The only detail we got was that he locked himself in a room with the boy, what else happened I don’t know, but when I read the news reports of his conviction this locking of the door was mentioned as being a modus operandi of his.

About a year before this incident we were all surprised when he married the mother of a classmate of ours, who also had a younger brother at the school. We knew the mother because she was somewhat of a MILF, and us rabble of teenage boys would make lewd remarks when she came to pick up her sons at the end of term. I didn’t know the younger son, but the older one was in most of my classes. Like a lot of the boys there he seemed a bit lost and unsure of himself, but he was a good kid. We ribbed him mercilessly when this teacher, who everyone joked was a pervert, married his mother and moved in with them but I was just mature enough to wonder if this wasn’t a little sinister. I remember one of the sensible teachers remarking that this was not a good move and the older boy should get himself out of there ASAP. Yesterday my mate told me the news reports said he targetted boys who were blonde, slim, and athletic, which I confirmed when I read them myself. That easily fits the description of the two boys whom he stepfathered, aged around 14 and 17. A few years later I heard the older lad had gone straight off to university and seemed to be doing all right. I have no idea about the younger brother.

What I remember about the teacher’s dismissal was that he was “asked to leave” rather than sacked and reported. This was probably to protect the reputation of the school. Several years before there was an incident in a comprehensive school my brothers and sisters went to, where a male teacher formed a relationship with a girl around 13 or 14 years old. He too was shuffled off quietly, allowing him to take a post in another school a few hundred miles away. A family friend who’d been in teaching for years said this was common, because nobody wants to own up to having employed a sex pest and enabled them to prey on pupils under their watch. I don’t know if the teacher from my school got another job, but the news reports described him as a “former teacher”. The assaults took place in the late 1980s but the first victim only came forward in 2013. That’s a big gap.

Earlier this month I spent a week on holiday with a university friend, who currently works as a teacher. I asked her what would happen now if somebody was caught abusing children in their care. She said they’d be run out of town on a rail, their name added to the sex offenders register, and they’d never be allowed to work with children again. I hope that is true.

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  1. My mother was a school governor, and had to deal with a case of a teacher who had acted inappropriately with a girl about 12-15 years ago.

    Turned out he’d done the same at two previous schools and yes, you guessed it, it had been suggested he seek employment elsewhere. No warnings to the schools taking him on.

    This time he went to jail.

  2. No warnings to the schools taking him on.

    That’s the thing, though. Everyone in our school knew the guy was a pervert, he was the butt of plenty of jokes, and the rumours proved to be true. When my friend and I reflected on this, we reckoned he wasn’t the only one either, there was at least one other who was very, very strange in his behaviour towards the boys.

  3. When I was at secondary school, my friend’s younger sister – aged, I think, 13 – had attracted unwelcome hands-on attention from one of the teachers, a man in his thirties. I remember the commotion that was caused the following afternoon as said friend’s father gave the teacher in question a vigorous beating in front of his class. The teacher in question was never seen again. At least not by us.

    The same secondary school also had a male PE teacher who was very attentive in his “monitoring” of the first-year boys’ showers.

    The words fox and hen house come to mind.

  4. My school (former grammar/ currently independent with public school delusions) had heaps of these creatures in various guises.

    An outstanding example was publically outed on the front pages of the local newspaper when he was pulled in for kerb crawling, he kept his job and continued to teach amongst other things video filming and had exhibited some very dodgy behaviour in the past by taking girls for “driving lessons” at lunchtimes.
    I believe he was eventually hoofed out for downloading porn on school laptops long after I’d left. This was then again all over the lead item in the local rag with insinuations that it was somehow dodgy, resulting in a bizarre situation where one of the best loved teachers at the place wrote an official letter of rebuke confirming that it had been “conventional porn only”

    He wasn’t a full on pederast like some of the others and in no way as bad as the former headmaster of our sister establishment across town that that got busted with a whole load of pictures taken after rugby matches of boys celebrating in the bath; he DID get fired and it was splashed all over the place (F’nar) and is always brought up when anyone went there gets a bit too uppity.

  5. Interesting set of anecdotes here, to which I would like to add:

    My uncle (recently deceased) had a full on affair with his lady Spanish teacher when he was fifteen. This would be in the mid 1960’s in Birmingham.

    Oh, the scandal. Knocked years off my grandparent’s lives.

    My dad and his other brother thought it was very cool.

  6. …Oh yeah, and to balance it all out a mate of mine gave the the newly graduated english teacher a proper good rattling after the pub one night the year after we left.

  7. The girl who sat next to me in French classes in our 3rd year got up the duff by a teacher the following year. I think she had just turned 15. By the by, when I sat next to her I noticed the self harm cuts on her arms. If I was a nonce, I’d target those kids.

    Going by the anecdotes here, there’s a lot of it about, apparently.

    I wish any teacher who touches my kids the best of luck with eating solids or not pissing blood when I find out. And that includes university years; there’s a power dynamic that needs to be respected.

  8. The same secondary school also had a male PE teacher who was very attentive in his “monitoring” of the first-year boys’ showers.

    When I was in a comprehensive school about age 13 we used to have a PE teacher (meaning, rugby) who used to join us in the showers after the game. The thing is, I don’t think there was anything untoward about this: he was just doing what men do, even if we were on the verge of manhood. It’s all in the demeanour, and this guy was as straight-up as they come, to this day I don’t think he was doing anything perverted. A couple of years later in the army cadets this was the absolute norm, and at age 14 or 15 you could easily find yourself in a communal shower on a camp with a bunch of regular soldiers. The creeps and perverts are usually suspected of being so long before they’re caught, it rarely comes as a surprise.

    That said, I bet the PE teacher quit taking showers with the boys soon after. He’d be crucified for it now. Unless he identified as a tranny, of course.

  9. My uncle (recently deceased) had a full on affair with his lady Spanish teacher when he was fifteen.

    The Emmanuel Macron of his day.

  10. The words fox and hen house come to mind.

    I’ve realised with hindsight that nonces gravitate towards these jobs. Which is a pity for the vast majority who aren’t nonces, because some people will always suspect them.

  11. My school (former grammar/ currently independent with public school delusions) had heaps of these creatures in various guises.

    I always imagined you were a primary victim.

    Oh yeah, and to balance it all out a mate of mine gave the the newly graduated english teacher a proper good rattling after the pub one night the year after we left.

    You had English teachers in Cov?

  12. And that includes university years; there’s a power dynamic that needs to be respected.

    Yup.

  13. Somewhat related:

    Quoted in the Independent, consultant psychologist Glenn Wilson thinks we should approve of paedophiles who claim to remain celibate yet seek out employment in positions of authority over children, and intimate contact with children, where temptation will be concentrated, routine, and much easier to act on, should one be so inclined. Apparently, we should regard this as a “social good.” As if we’d struggle to find enough teachers without this selfless contribution.

    Though it occurs to me that if a person bedevilled by fantasies of child molestation seeks out employment among children, this doesn’t exactly signal the best of intentions or a basis for reassurance, let alone applause. Unless I’m terribly out of touch and parents across the land want their children to have a teacher who harbours fantasies of molesting them.

    And then of course there’s this.

  14. Somewhat related:

    A feature of the modern, SJW-dominated world seems to be the normalisation and promotion of all manner of deviant behaviour under the guise of “equality”, “rights” and not being “judgemental”. Paedophiles in schools is one. Polyamory is another, hence my little campaign.

  15. Minor stuff, being a kid at a Secondary Modern, but we had a male PE teacher who whispers went, would try to bother the young ladies of the school. Now I am sure Miss Laura H really didn’t want at 14 a male teacher to ‘help her put her stockings on’ (yes, I am old; girls wore stockings then and no, I haven’t got over such memories yet) and declined his help.

    But you never know.

    By the way, my wife went to a boarding school for girls and I gather such boarding schools were strange places. She said the school insisted each pupil should have four pairs of knickers and 24 handkerchiefs. I do wonder what they were thinking, but then it was in the south of England. Another thing us northerners struggle to understand.

  16. @David Thompson,

    I have the same view about politicians; I think anyone seeking to be one should be automatically excluded. We should make it like jury duty, something we groan at getting called up for.

  17. When I was a fresher we had a classmate who was a very awkward fellow whom the girls in particular shunned.

    Yeas later I saw him on the national news being carted off to jail, having been convicted of the attempted murder of his wife “using his biochemist’s skills”. Not highly developed skills, it would seem.

    This supports your point that wrong ‘uns will often be suspected by their acquaintances.

    By the way, something comparable happened when marrywhanny suddenly turned up one autumn. The people who were the first to try it at parties were those who the rest of us had already identified as being a bit bonkers.

  18. @dearime,

    Spellcheck isn’t your friend.

    Personally, I reckon marrywhani is the thing we all need to have a good source for when extreme pain is a thing.

    Opiates are nice for a party but sometimes you need to kill your deep nerve pain and that’s the time for weed.

  19. Personally, I reckon marrywhani is the thing we all need to have a good source for when extreme pain is a thing.

    We could all stop running about like idiots when we’re too old for it and lie on the sofa instead. Or at least warm up properly.

  20. He was popular, firm, fair and never once creepy.

    That’s even more worrying, actually.

  21. @TNA

    And that includes university years; there’s a power dynamic that needs to be respected.

    The autobiography of Frank Skinner is quite an entertaining read, but at one point he explains why he went in for an A-level lecturing job at a sixth form college (I believe Halesowen College in the West Midlands) – it wasn’t legal to shag the girls if you taught at a secondary school, but it was at a Further Education college. And from what he writes, it sounds like he got through quite a lot of the class. These days it’s illegal to do so in a position of authority, until your partner is 18, but it does show how norms have changed.

  22. @TimN

    A feature of the modern, SJW-dominated world seems to be the normalisation and promotion of all manner of deviant behaviour under the guise of “equality”, “rights” and not being “judgemental”.

    I don’t think that is just a feature of the modern world, the basic idea has been around for a long time. There has long been a delusion about the world becoming a more “progressive” place, where “progressive” is defined by those who self-define, at the time, as “progressive”.

    But actually social trends do not always follow the path that those who seek to influence them would prefer. Many of the very early radical activists who turned out to be on the “right side of history” over gay rights, ended up on the wrong side of history over pederasty (which at one time was often campaigned for in tandem with homosexual rights – see e.g. John Addington Symonds who was writing in the 1870s about “Greek ethics”). If anything, social norms about relationships between adults and teenagers have become stricter. Similarly, many of the voices who turned out on the right side of history over abortion and reproductive rights, were foiled (principally by the bad taste left hanging over the issue by the activities of the Nazis) in their push for this to be used as a tool for eugenics.

  23. “We could all stop running about like idiots when we’re too old for it and lie on the sofa instead. Or at least warm up properly.”.

    Apparently not. I’m running the Sydney half marathon in September dressed up as Sir Jimmy Saville. I assume the locals won’t get the joke.

    Now then, now then.

  24. Q. How do you sack a useless teacher?
    A. You can’t. It takes ages and less than 20 a year get the heave ho.

    Q. How do you sack a dodgy sex pest teacher?
    A. You can’t, until he’s convicted.

    How do you improve the quality of your teaching staff? By writing glowing references for the worst, of course.

  25. @james

    Q. How do you sack a dodgy sex pest teacher?
    A. You can’t, until he’s convicted.

    No longer believe this is the case. “Safeguarding” policies are much firmer these days, and people can be barred from working with children and vulnerable adults even without a conviction. The Disclosure and Barring Service will check both whether a job applicant for a teaching job has a criminal record, and whether they appear on any such “barred list”.

    See https://www.gov.uk/guidance/teacher-status-checks-information-for-employers#disclosure-and-barring-service-dbs

  26. Anybody who wants a steady supply of such stories can have keep track of the teacher misconduct panel outcomes – the odd bit of drugs or violence, and a surprising amount of fraud, but there’s a lot of sex, both gay and straight. Incidentally, a lot of it legal (i.e. between teachers and consenting 18 year olds) but that doesn’t stop them getting banned from teaching for life. Moreover, most of it sounds pretty sad – sexting, drunken fumbles, often with kids who have already been designated “vulnerable” – which often means mental health or emotional problems.

  27. Small sample sizes I know but what male teacher isn’t going to have thoughts about blossoming women of a certain age? I am not surprised by the stats but do wonder how many male teachers there are an what proportion get into difficulty? As statistical samples go my teenage years were rather blighted.

    When I was a lad, 12-18, I saw a GP who was really good at being a doctor, and at collecting kiddie porn in a pre-internet era. There was nothing unusual about the chap in any way shape or form, that I could spot at least.

    When I was a lad, 14-16, we had a computer club after (comprehensive) school hours in the pre-internet era. Two maths teachers ran it. The woman was weird and generally disliked. She murdered the wife and kids of the other teacher one afternoon.

  28. Yet a teacher gets clean away with forcing transgender on infants. Strange world.

  29. I guess I missed all the naughty stuff while going to school, and I went to Catholic schools throughout..As much as the Catholic Church defaced their reputation, I’ve read time after time that the government schools are far worse in the U.S. Conveniently, the progressives run a tight-lipped ship there since they own the institution lock, stock, and barrel. Some day, the facade is going to crack and the scandals will be huge.

    As a side note, only in recent years have many of these abuses been exposed. The Catholics haven’t been the only ones who shuffled transgressors from place to place in hopes that the problem would go away in a different setting. Society didn’t understand these compulsions very well and erred on the side of silence. Schools, Boy Scouts, and all sorts of groups have done the same thing. Hopefully, it will catch up to all of them since children are damaged so severely from it.

    Lastly, I always wonder about the fate of pederasts and pedophiles. At this point, there is rarely (maybe never) a cure. Did evolution simply create a human error that condemns them to a life of exile from society? I don’t know any other answer than yes. It’s a very depressing, disturbing topic.

  30. “A feature of the modern, SJW-dominated world seems to be the normalisation and promotion of all manner of deviant behaviour under the guise of “equality”, “rights” and not being “judgemental”. Paedophiles in schools is one. Polyamory is another, hence my little campaign.”

    Wrong target.

    Society constantly changes, with some groups coming into favour and others falling out of it. SJWs and other authoritarians don’t care – what they’re looking for are groups that society will let them bully and persecute. If homosexuals are disapproved of, they’ll ban and persecute homosexuals (pink triangles, yes?). If homophobes are disapproved of, they’ll ban and persecute homophobes. It’s all the same.

    They also seek out sympathy and support by loudly supporting formerly persecuted groups that society now sympathises with. They cast themselves in the tableaux as heroes standing up for the persecuted underdog. They started obviously with the poor and working classes, but they’ve also done women, black people, the disabled, foreigners, and homosexuals. But at the same time they’ll cheerfully persecute now-‘deviant’ smokers, drinkers, and fat people, because society doesn’t like those particular minorities.

    Supporting minority groups gaining public sympathy that conservatives can be relied upon to kick up about also has a strategic advantage. It enables them to portray conservatives to the public as old-fashioned sexist, racist, homophobic, plutocrat-supporting callous capitalist bastards, and anyone with any pretensions to being consided a ‘good’ or ‘nice’ person should turn naturally to the left. It works every time, too.

    They know that loudly speaking up for women’s equality will trigger some conservative to stand up and publicly demand women be chained barefoot and pregnant to their kitchen sinks, as they used to be. The SJWs are sniggering with glee.

  31. “The SJWs are sniggering with glee.”

    I would say that its a little more serious than that, with the demoralisation of our society near complete and destabilisation pending.

  32. I think Peter Cook nailed it with the ‘Wiggins ‘ sketch.

    For all the wrong reasons, as funny as hell.

    Live recording on YouTube. Dud can barely contain himself.

  33. There’s another aspect to all of this that’s troubling.

    My father taught sixth grade for eons. Maybe 25 years ago, as male pedophiles became more of a public concern, it became taboo for any male teacher to have any physical contact at all with any student, particularly young boys.

    Young boys, much more than young girls, crave physical contact. They roughhouse, they play, and they bump and grab and put their arms around others much more than girls. Boys seek a lot of affirmation of their own worth in such contact. My father describes times when he would be dealing with some young student who had no males in his life, and the student obviously hungered for any contact – the messing of his hair, an arm on his shoulder, sometimes a hug as he cries.

    But it reached the point where, with a crying sixth-grader in front of him leaning in for support, he had to back away and put his hands up in the air to make it clear to any observers that there had been no contact. My father said it was frequently close to heartbreaking to see the poor kid react to being rejected in that way, but the times allowed for no other reaction.

    As a direct result of this environment, men have almost completely been chased out of elementary education. The fear of being accused is so strong – and so realistic – that those men who do go into education only appear once the kids are high school age or older.

    So we’ve ceded the education of all of our boys to women. I have nothing in particular against women, but boys need a male influence in their lives, especially now that so many boys are being raised by single mothers. Credible psych theories point to the lack of same as a partial explanation for the snowflake generations.

  34. I’m running the Sydney half marathon in September dressed up as Sir Jimmy Saville.

    Heh!

  35. The woman was weird and generally disliked. She murdered the wife and kids of the other teacher one afternoon.

    Bloody hell!

  36. “Yet a teacher gets clean away with forcing transgender on infants”

    Forcing transgender… what? (It’s an adjective, not a noun. There’s a noun missing here.)

    What is it they do?

  37. Young boys, much more than young girls, crave physical contact. They roughhouse, they play, and they bump and grab and put their arms around others much more than girls. Boys seek a lot of affirmation of their own worth in such contact

    One of my sons had several friends with absent fathers.
    Birthday parties at our house, when they were young, tended to be (1) games of football, followed by (2) guzzling of cake/ fizzy drinks, followed by (3) further football and maybe a game on the Nintendo. I generally played in or refereed or generally supervised the football.
    After a few of these parties, my wife pointed out that by stage (3) those left playing football with me were mostly the boys with the absent fathers, while the others had moved to the Nintendo

  38. After a few of these parties, my wife pointed out that by stage (3) those left playing football with me were mostly the boys with the absent fathers, while the others had moved to the Nintendo

    I find that immeasurably sad. Poor sods.

  39. bobby b, I’ve seen the same type of story recounted many times. The panicking female response to a few wrong-doers is naturally to come down like a hammer on everyone and everything in sight, just in case. Yet another avenue for building up young boys taken away and replaced with feminised worrying. I guess it would require too much maturity to admit that this is the same as it ever was and just deal with cases as they arise, rather than destroying a large part of normal childhood freedom and mentoring.

  40. “Credible psych theories point to the lack of same as a partial explanation for the snowflake generations.”

    Well, who’s knocking sense into them? Who is their role model?

  41. “Well, who’s knocking sense into them? Who is their role model?”

    Lena Dunham, so far as I can tell. These are the generations of feminized men.

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