Epilogue

Remember this story?

This is the international lawyer filmed ranting at Air India staff on a Mumbai to London flight after she was refused alcohol – leaving other business class passengers holding hands in terror.

Simone O’Broin, 50, was arrested after she was caught on camera shouting abuse at male and female cabin crew and demanding another glass of wine.

Sadly, there’s a follow-up:

A human rights lawyer jailed for abusing Air India cabin crew after being refused alcohol on a business class flight is thought to have killed herself at Beachy Head days after being released from prison.

Simone Burns, 50, was sentenced to six months in April after racially abusing and spitting at stewards during a flight from Mumbai to London last year.

She was released from Bronzefield women’s prison on licence on May 20 and was found dead at the foot of cliffs in East Sussex 13 days later.

This is desperately sad, and no doubt the media will focus on this bit:

A friend, who did not want to be named, said her “world fell apart” after her conviction and she became a target for internet trolls after the four-minute clip of her inebriated rant went viral on social media.

Burns was diagnosed with skin cancer 18 years ago, a condition that required multiple biopsies and surgeries. At the time of her court appearance she was waiting to get a prosthetic nose.

She seems to have been a troubled woman for quite some time, with her illness leading to mental problems. I like to make fun of women who go off to “find themselves” in Zen retreats, dye their hair turquoise, hang around Burning Man, and take up polyamory but the serious point is that many of them are suffering from serious mental issues which have gone untreated. As we have discovered, these are not lifestyle choices but coping mechanisms. So whereas it might have been the jail sentence and media attention which pushed Burns over the edge, what she needed was intervention and professional help a lot earlier. Unfortunately, modern society – particularly third wave feminism – tends to dissuade women from admitting they have problems, and instead encourages them to engage in degenerate behaviour which only makes things worse.

Burns was 50 when she died. Most of the women I’ve written about are between 30 and 40. We really don’t know what anguish they’re storing up for themselves, but we’re going to find out one way or another.

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21 thoughts on “Epilogue

  1. Whenever a racist rant goes viral, it turns out to be a mental health issue. Can’t find the link now, but on an Australian flight the abuser had just buried his son. Another, on a Melbourne train, was an alcoholic.
    The same happens to me overseas. The only people who ever bother me are children, drunks and clearly unwell people. Normal adults mind their manners regardless of what they might think about you.

  2. Thanks for the business idea. Running coach tours to Eastbourne. Now it’s just trying to work out how to maximise profits by filling the seats on the return trip.

  3. We can only hope that she is finally resting in peace now.

    A lot of that story is weird, it wasn’t three mini bottles of wine that made her go off, the way she did. Whats with the born in Belfast comment and she was sentenced to six months (seems harsh to me) in April but released on the 20th May (time previously served or something).

  4. For once I’m not sure I agree with you – our modern society tells we we need to share and discuss all of our problems.

    I believe it’s people focusing on their problems and talking about them, in an ineffective way, that provides a feedback loop that just amplifies them.

    Most of the people I know who have had counselling and take anti-depressants have ended up in a worse mental state than before they started.

    That’s not to say there aren’t good Psychologists out there, but I feel most of the field is quack science.

  5. “but the serious point is that many of them are suffering from serious mental issues which have gone untreated.”

    This is a point I often make. I have a theory that says that many women suffer from low level mental illness (in a typical gender split of men do things to extreme so you get a few mostly male high level nutters, while women have far more people in the middle ground of low level mental illness) but manage to largely fly under the radar (ie not become formally diagnosed) because a) their behaviour isn’t as extreme as mens, b) if they do display unstable behaviour its not as threatening as a man doing the same thing, so the authorities aren’t involved as much, and c) there are usually male figures in the background (fathers and husbands) who smooth over the cracks and make all the problems go away.

    I’ve lost count of the number of middle aged women I know of who are definitely mentally ill in some way, but whose husbands deal with their issues and prevent them from causing too much trouble. One classic case came to a head when the husband died and the wife was left to fend for herself, and everything fell apart, she couldn’t hold it all together. This a woman who had had a solid middle class life, family the works, but once hubby when she went completely of the rails.

    I think this issue will get worse due to societal change – more women are ending up single in later life, and divorce is easy, so the days of dutiful husbands keeping their batty wives on an even keel all their lives is rapidly disappearing, and we’ll see ever more cases like this poor womans.

  6. @Jim

    And add to that menopause, that’s a huge wobbler that women go through as I discovered. Husbands and fathers need to adapt and explain it to the kids, its a big one on its own, that perfectly well balanced and healthy women go through.

    If they are a bit loopy, and say lonely and then get menopausal on top of all of that, and they are outside of a supporting family unit then I can see that this would be a very high risk period of time for them.

    I see that the unfortunate lady in the article was at an age that is a known time in the female life-cycle when menopausal symptoms may occur.

  7. So for some reason the comments here reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend’s father when I was about 15 (late 1980’s). He was a pub landlord, with a few other businesses on the side. He was very good at understanding people. At that time, a local man had recently committed suicide.
    Friends father commented to me that taller men tend to commit suicide at a higher rate than shorter men (I have no evidence for this, it’s just what he said). His reasoning was that they tend to get pushed into leadership positions in life when internally they may not be up to it. So some of them would have nervous breakdowns and off themselves as they could not live up to the expectations that family, friends and co-workers had of them.

    I wonder if 3rd wave feminism is having a similar effect on some women. They expect to ‘have it all’ be strong/independent etc,. but some of them really can’t cope that well. I knew of an NGO woman of a similar age, hung herself in Istanbul airport about 3 years ago. I found her FB page. Not a progressive cause she wouldn’t advocate for. But once she ran low on funds, taxpayer funded work dried up well she ended it.

    Another girl I know in her late 30’s just moved back in with her parents, as she can’t afford to rent any more – she must hate that as she’s a pretty (but waning) tall slim leggy blonde ex -party girl. And yes, she recently went on a yoga retreat.

    I think a lot of them fall apart without decent men in their lives, but if they spend their 20s and half their 30s with ‘the bad boys, commitment phobs’ to quote Sheryl Sandberg then they shouldn’t be surprised when life doesn’t work out that well for them when they hit 40. I now think that ‘having it all’ was never about career and kids, but about shagging men who are emotional rollercoasters when they are hot, and settling into sexual retirement with a nice provider when they see their looks fade. And when men don’t buy into this, well…go long on cat food.

  8. Damiand
    “I wonder if 3rd wave feminism is having a similar effect on some women. They expect to ‘have it all’ be strong/independent etc,. but some of them really can’t cope that well.”

    I think the majority do not cope well at all in my experience. Most don’t make the money that would insulate them and carry the ‘strong independent women’ thing as an excuse for serial failures in relationships.

    “I think a lot of them fall apart without decent men in their lives”

    Do you think any of them know what a decent man really is these days? Through a ‘friend’ I knew a large circle of late 30’s strong, independent women and every single one was desperate for a ‘decent’ man (not declared of course), and almost every one cycled through possibly the biggest bunch of losers I’ve ever run into. It’s remarkable how many broke 40ish guys there are who are in a band on the cusp of wealth and fame.

  9. @ Damiand – “His reasoning was that they tend to get pushed into leadership positions in life when internally they may not be up to it.”

    I can vouch for that happening earlier in life as well. My youngest son is tall he is 6/6 now at 17 yo and has been larger than his cohort from secondary onwards.

    When we first enrolled him for Rugby Union one of the coaches took a shine to him and all of a sudden there was only openings available in the older age group that he coached. My son joined that team as its youngest member and a complete novice and there was a lot of focus and expectation placed on him, first by the coach, then by the team, even the other parent spectators and they nicknamed him “Unit”.

    My son grew tired of the game towards the end of season and said that he didn’t want to continue and he felt that he couldn’t just turn up play and learn. The coach actually apologized to me at season end and said that he had put too much pressure on him, and that he had done this before, and he was genuinely sorry.

    So yes that and the Tall Poppy Syndrome is alive and well and from a young age.

  10. Many commenters here seem to be suggesting that men and women are in some way a bit different. You should all know that such heresy is now illegal and you’re flirting with a visit from the Woke Gestapo.
    Women can do anything, and all on their own, without love or support from the toxic other ones (and that includes women who have penises). Sheesh.

  11. A man without a woman – and I speak from experience here having lived alone all my life – lacks a certain, aesthetic shall we say.

    I think it’s fair to say that I’m a fairly nerdy loner, lacking in certain social airs and graces conducive to a vibrant social whirl. Slobbto a degree for sure and fairly immune to health fads.

    But mentally I think I’m fine though (my collection of shrunken heads agree).

    I think I would be a better man with the right woman. I’ll certainly concede that, but I don’t think the – eccentricities let’s call them – I’ve developed over the years impact anybody else to any meaningful degree.

    But I think Damiand is correct in that in a fundamental sense women need men for proper mental stability (I can hear feminist shrieks of outrage and those ladies who live alone perfectly contentedly, but we’re generalizing here).

    In this specific case though, I hope whoever it was who made the recording and posted it is happy.

  12. I think I would be a better man with the right woman.

    Probably, but given the ridiculous entitlement mentality that is drilled into women from a young age, that “right woman” that might be perfect for you (and for whom you are also perfect for) is chasing the feminist delusion like a psychopath chasing will-o-the-wisps against a rising summer sunrise.

    As has been pointed out before, men who are on their own tend to fair okay. Women deteriorate rapidly without a strong male to act as both an anchor and also to calm her hysterics when life doesn’t go her own way.

    Until our society as a whole restores its grip on the problem of attempting to program girls to be boys and boys to be girls chaos will continue to reign supreme.

    Can’t actually see anything changing this side of the inevitable Interregnum though…

  13. There’s a separate issue here, beyond the usual cat-lady yoga-retreat trope: Any man or woman who dedicates their life exclusively to their career will end up miserable when their career inevitably ends.

    For most people this happens when they hit retirement, transitioning from a valued & experienced employee surrounded by colleagues, to a pensioner watching daytime TV at home alone. Presumably this lady’s career as a lawyer for progressive causes came to an abrupt halt with her non-progressive rant. Most people at least get to plan for their retirement – she had no such preparation.

    Men and women alike need more than one string to their bow. For women it’s family and children, so men normally bear the brunt of retirement (or redundancy) shock. As the 1960s cohort of childless women begins to hit retirement, we’re going to see it happen to women a lot more. Unlike men who suffer in silence, the women will be sure to tell us all about it.

  14. I remember the case but never bothered reading about it fully. I never watched the video as it’s just so sad and predictable, thoroughly unpleasant to watch and has become massively more tragic with the suicide.

    A lot of videos like this are appearing in the media lately and they seem to be a form of release for people to show their virtue. It’s quite sickening to see the Daily Mail putting out requests to identify the ‘racist’ in the video, with the destruction of the offender’s life being the goal.

    I realise that this particular case isn’t quite like that, but it does appear to contain an element of ‘diversity fatigue’, which exists and is an additional factor on top of the issues of feminism and female psychology that have already been mentioned. The stress of travelling seems to bring it out.

  15. @Matt

    I only watched it for the first time as well. I would say that the Mail went big on this one as a hate article they sell very well.

    Not sure that she should have got six months, but having watched it twice I will say that the cabin crew did not handle the incident very well at all.

    So much for Air Marshals and crew training for violent or suspicious passengers post 911. She should have been restrained, with say cable ties, for her own and everyone elses safety. Plus screaming about Palestine, IRA and Rohyinghas does not help her case.

    The other passengers should never have had to put up with that situation next to them. Its hard to understand why they did, I fly business a lot and if someone like that was acting the way she was next to me, I would have not just sat there and copped it. As if you could go back to sleep anyway knowing that she was there and free to move around.

    Even a citizens arrest if no one else was going to do anything about it.

    A very strange and tragic affair.

  16. It’s not mental illness, it’s the subconscious mind trying to fulfill it’s biological destiny and get pregnant. Getting passing out drunk in your underwear is an excellent way of getting pregnant, as is starting fights with blokes. We’re just conditioned to not see it that way.

  17. No one’s mentioned what seems to be to be a massive factor – women’s identity and sense of self is massively tied to their appearance. This woman was diagnosed with skin cancer and had no nose. That’s got to be a bigger influence on her mental health than anything.

  18. Daniel,

    Quite so. It’s what I was alluding to when I wrote “her illness leading to mental problems.”

  19. Of course anyone flying would find it unacceptable to have that situation errupt in their cabin. I’m not sure that it requires a prison sentence, though. The toll that the cancer took on her would have been huge. I can’t help but think that the sentence was politically motivated if her outburst was racial.
    Most certainly something that wouldn’t be happening in normal times.

  20. I have family members (uncle, half-brothers, cousin, nephew) with serious psychiatric problems (schizophrenia, bipolar disorder). I’m not without sympathy and compassion for people with these conditions who get themselves into trouble with the law. Two of my half-brothers are convicted felons. A half-brother and cousin committed suicide. A nephew died of a heroin overdose. No one pays much attention when it’s men who are the victims of mental illness. But when it’s women? The evil patriarchy! I’m afraid that my sympathy and compassion tend to evaporate in cases such as this woman’s. She couldn’t control her temper, she acted (somewhat) violently, she got arrested, she did a few months in prison, she killed herself, Boo effing hoo.

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