Pink or brown?

I’ve written before about the battle lines being drawn between LGBT campaigners who want laws granting them access to primary school children, and Muslim parents who don’t want their children learning this stuff (at any age). A reader sends me the link to this story, which suggests the front has widened somewhat:

Four more schools in Birmingham have stopped teaching about LGBT rights following complaints by parents.

Leigh Trust said it was suspending the No Outsiders programme until an agreement with parents was reached.

Earlier this month the city’s Parkfield Community School suspended the lessons after protests were held.

Campaigner Amir Ahmed said some Muslims felt “victimised” but an LGBT group leader said No Outsiders helped pupils understand it is OK to be different.

The LGBT campaigners claim all they’re doing is explaining to children that some boys and girls are different and they should not feel bad if they are one of them. I’d believe it were this innocent if the modern LGBT movement didn’t have a history of intolerance, compulsion, and threatening anyone who didn’t actively celebrate their way of life. Following the Twitter threads on this, even parents who meekly suggest maybe primary school children are a little bit young to be taught about homosexuality are denounced as homophobes. When some opine that perhaps this is best left to the parents, the response is that intolerant, bigoted people should not be permitted to deny their children the opportunity to hear correct, state-approved views. In its current form this is not about helping children but ensuring fanatical views are imposed on every child in the land, backed by the full weight of the government. Genuine conservatives should be denouncing this, but we don’t have many of them any more and those that are left have been cowed into silence. However, the Muslim community has no qualms about opposing these schemes as incompatible with their conservative values, because they’re playing the same game as the LGBT campaigners only better.

What we’ve got here is one bunch of intolerant campaigners with state-approved victim status going up against another bunch of intolerant campaigners with state-approved victim status. Given how ludicrously incompatible these various victim classes are this was inevitable, and given how obviously the victim hierarchy is arranged there is only going to be one winner. I have some sympathy with the moderate LGBT campaigners, but if their spokesman are going to smear every conservative parent as a bigot for not wanting political campaigners access to their young children, I’m happy to sit back and let them get a harsh lesson in what happens when you abandon principles in favour of identity politics.

For my part, I’ve always thought sex education should begin at the start of secondary school when children start to hit puberty in large numbers, and it should focus more on heterosexuality than homosexuality (but both get covered). If that makes me an intolerant bigot so be it, but don’t expect me to leap to your defence when some real prejudice comes knocking. As I’ve asked before, who will you run to? I’d like to think the majority of British parents as well as British gays are sensible about this, but they’re unable to make themselves heard. As usual, the fanatics are drowning out everyone else.

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10 thoughts on “Pink or brown?

  1. The primary thing that I do believes in is the law. Right now, almost no MPs, including Conservatives are condemning these schools.

    This comes to the heart of deeply unprincipled politicians. They chase identity votes. The gay votes, the grey votes, the Muslim vote. When you see a photo of your MP at the local Sikh Temple, they are trying to grab The Sikh Vote. This also means that if you’re not a Sikh, you might find an MP working against your interest

  2. The primary thing that I do believes in is the law.

    The law is completely corrupted. Somehow we’ve gone from “keep the government out of the bedroom” to “it is a national requirement that primary school children be given lectures by LGBT campaigners against the wishes of many parents”.

    This comes to the heart of deeply unprincipled politicians.

    Indeed.

  3. Young children should not be taught very much until they are ready and that includes reading. When they are ready they will start asking questions and these need to be answered in ways that the child can cope with because their attention spans are short.

    Anecdote alert: When our son was about 7 I said something about education not being free. He questioned this and we spent about 5 minutes talking about taxes and how schools are paid for. As soon as I’d finished he asked me about Father Christmas. He remembered that discussion about taxes, but it didn’t mean he wanted to spend 40 minutes discussing it – question asked, question answered – move on.

    I’d have done the same with LGBTQWERTSS+.

    (Most of the evidence says we teach children to read when they are too young, about 7 is the optimum time. Yes I know, most middle class children learn to read in the womb and by the time they’re 3 they’re devouring Shakespeare, according to their parents)

  4. Isn’t that grand, all-encompassing theory of intersecionality great when one side very vocally doesn’t hold up its part of the bargin?

    In any case, said party it never agreed to be part of the bargain anyway, and had never actually even pretended to go along – “Gays for Palestine” has always been rather one-way street…

  5. “Gays for Palestine” has always been rather one-way street…

    Indeed, signs saying “Palestinians for Homosexuality” are rather thin on the ground in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I blame the Jews.

  6. I’d believe it were this innocent if the modern LGBT movement didn’t have a history of intolerance, compulsion, and threatening anyone who didn’t actively celebrate their way of life.

    Yeah, I’d believe it if the modern LGBT movement didn’t have a lengthy, self-acknowledged history of aggressively trying to recruit impressionable children. The battle was lost when parents allowed these creeps into the school system in the first place.

    Yes, yes, I know not all gay people are creeps. But the ones clamoring for access to your children sure as hell are.

  7. Once we’re out of the way, they’ll be gouging each other’s eye out. It will be the war of all against all. Muslims v. homos. Paki Muslims v. Indian Muslims. Blacks against Mexicans. Lesbians against everyone.

  8. My favorite comment on the affair thus far is from Ofsted chief Amanda Spielman, who told the protesting parents, “The essence of democracy is that we don’t all get our way. The essence of democracy is that we accept majority decision.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2019/02/21/pupils-should-taught-children-have-two-mummies-two-daddies-ofsted/

    So whose democracy is this anyway? Any bets on this woman’s views of, say, Brexit? I wonder if she realizes how condescending she sounds.

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