Via Tim Almond, this Tweet:
I am noticing a trend in women age 18-22 I’m mentoring— they try to network and get mentoring and go to meetups and literally every guy they try to talk with gets flirty
They’re *blocked* from this professional advancement because so many guys jump straight into trying to date
— Stephanie Hurlburt (@sehurlburt) September 15, 2018
There are a few comments which could be made here. Firstly, what’s the women’s body language like when they talk to the men, especially those they find attractive? How does it differ from when they are flirting? I’ve noticed if a pretty young woman wants something from a man she doesn’t know – information, help with something, a favour – she’ll turn up the charm to 11 and approach him in a way which (quite deliberately) mimics seduction. Most tone this down when they have some experience in a professional environment and get to know their colleagues (it generally only works on strangers), but these women are 18-22. I expect a good few of them have spent their entire lives smiling coyly, pouting, and twirling their hair in order to get something and haven’t yet learned this isn’t what you should do at a professional event. You can be damned sure they showed up wearing their most flattering clothes, makeup, jewellery, and shoes which made them look taller. They’ll tell you dressing up makes them feel good about themselves, which is only true if other women like how they look. The trouble is, if women think they look good then so will men, and that brings me onto my second point (which Tim Almond makes on Twitter).
Men are biologically hardwired to attempt to impress cute young women, and no amount of reeducation and social conditioning will eliminate this entirely. At the very least, it’s going to take time, i.e. maturity and focused efforts from both sexes to moderate their natural instincts to flirt and find a partner. Of course, the feminist approach is that women, even teenagers, are always highly professional and never flirt and it is men who need to radically change their behaviour and become monks. It’s all very well to say men and women shouldn’t flirt with one another in a professional environment, but when they are entering the workplace at the precise time their bodies are screaming at them to find a partner how can you possibly stop it? I don’t know what percentage of people meet their future partners at work but I know it’s substantial. As Tim Almond remarks, if a single woman meets a man she’s attracted to at work and he starts flirting, she’s not going to complain about unprofessionalism.
As I said in a recent post, paraphrasing Jordan Peterson who was engaging in a little reductio ad absurdum, if this really is the problem feminists are making it out to be, then perhaps segregated workplaces are the way to go; it’s either that or fight biology. Of course, the problem isn’t what feminists make it out to be. All that’s required is for common sense to be applied, e.g. by rooting out the genuine sex pests, banning employees from sleeping with their subordinates, and understanding that human nature, especially among youngsters, doesn’t stop because you’re wearing a lanyard with a badge on it.
Of course, it’s hard to apply common sense when a subset of women insist on being victims:
As women, we want to have it all — a career, a fulfilling social life, a satisfying sex life, a healthy family. And we are told that we can have it all if we just work hard enough, if we can just sustain the pressure long enough to become dazzling gems. Often, that means taking on extra responsibilities at home or at work, while sacrificing basic needs, wants, and important self-care practices.
In the United States, women are more likely to experience stress than men, and it’s largely a societal problem. Women are just expected to do more, and to do it without complaining.
Women are expected to land the great job, nag the ideal partner, maintain meaningful friendships, and keep a healthy body that adheres to narrow beauty standards.
As I’m fond of saying, one of the arguments against women working was they would not be able to cope with the stresses of the professional environment, and they are physiologically better suited to staying at home. Second-wave feminists vehemently opposed this, insisting women were mentally strong enough to cope with professional roles hitherto deemed only suitable for men, and they eventually got their way. Now here we are a generation or two later and modern feminists are complaining women’s lives are too stressful in part because of unreasonable work demands.
What is plainly obvious is that just as some men are unsuited to working in demanding professional roles, so are some women. But modern feminism insists all women have a right to demanding roles, and when the unsuitable suffer, the role must be changed rather than the person filling it. Of course, this doesn’t happen because there are enough capable women who don’t need the whole world dumbed down to make their lives easier, thus validating the concerns of the misogynistic dinosaurs of yesteryear. The result is less capable women becoming increasingly stressed, which is a bad thing but I’m struggling to see what any of this has to do with men:
Just think about how fathers are never guilted for focusing only on work and financial stability, while women are pressured to raise their families and provide for them financially.
Sorry, who puts pressure on women to financially provide for their families? It’s not conservative men, is it? Here we have radical feminists blaming the Patriarchy for the stress exerted on women by radical feminist policies.
If sensible professional women want to continue in their roles, their voices must prevail over those of feminists who are doing everything they can to set their cause back half a century or more. From what I can tell, they’re currently being drowned out.