Out of Touch

This is a revealing exchange:

That immigration has both positive and negative effects is undeniable, even if one takes the position that there is a clear net benefit. That some, many, or most immigrants are good is a reasonable position to take; to say all immigrants are good is just stupid. Check the jails if you want proof there are some real bad ‘uns among those who show up on the shores of any country. Bloom’s statement is therefore not in the slightest bit controversial, and his view on this subject is probably shared by the vast majority, particularly those who are fed up with immigration being spoken about as a black and white issue instead of a policy with obvious trade-offs.

But Kamm believes Bloom’s view is so extraordinary he feels it necessary to respond with an appeal to the wilder parts of his readers’ imaginations to get them to understand it. Now Kamm has over 23k followers and his tweets usually result in multiple likes, retweets, and comments. On most of his pet subjects his followers are positively sycophantic, ganging up on anyone who takes issue with Kamm’s premise, but this tweet managed a total of 3 likes, no comments, and no retweets. I suspect most of them read it, pulled their head back, and said “Huh?”

This tweet offers a useful insight into the minds of Oxbridge-educated, metropolitan establishment types (I believe Kamm typifies the mentality; he is far from alone). Not only do they believe all immigrants are unequivocally good, but they cannot imagine any normal person holding the view that some might be bad, and assume everyone else will see the supposed absurdity as well. We should remember this next time one of their number appears in print, on Twitter, or on TV pontificating about something. They don’t inhabit the same world as ordinary people, and it shows.

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11 thoughts on “Out of Touch

  1. Kamm is far too clever to believe this for a second. He is merely enforcing the Narrative, the Lie that everyone must pretend to believe if they know what’s good for them.

  2. Kamm is far too clever to believe this for a second.

    I used to think he was very clever. I now think he’s extremely knowledgeable in certain areas to the utter detriment of all others, including knowing his own limitations.

  3. “Kamm is far too clever to believe this for a second. ”

    Never assume just because someone is clever that they are not completely capable of believe the most inane bullshit imaginable.

  4. I think lots of people do believe that all immigrants are good.
    I don’t know how they believe it, it is amazing.
    As someone married to an immigrant what annoys me is that if our son does something amazing he will be called “son of an immigrant” by the press but if he does something great he will be called “British man”.

  5. “This tweet offers a useful insight into the minds of Oxbridge-educated, metropolitan establishment types (I believe Kamm typifies the mentality; he is far from alone). Not only do they believe all immigrants are unequivocally good…”

    I don’t think they believe all immigrants are good. They believe immigration is good. They don’t deal in the particularity and messiness of real life, because there one needs to make real choices and formulate hard-won judgements about flesh-and-blood individuals. Kamm and people like him are far happier with lofty ideas that they can pass around and mark up or down.

  6. I don’t think they think immigration is good or bad. They just think its better the the British working class.

    Lets be honest, you have to be pretty poor to deal with nonprodessional nontrade immigrates.

  7. It’s simply about shutting down any debate.

    To debate the issue is to admit there may be another point of view. We’re seeing this on matters like gender, education, Brexit and the EU, etc.

  8. Was Kamm making a pedantic grammar point again? What did Bloom mean with “seem speech”? Was it “see speech” and Kamm meant, “imagine not seeing that error”?

  9. My take on it?

    Import Africans, you end up with Africa.

    Import Asians, you end up with Asia.

    If he wants to live in either Africa or Asia, then sod off to that part of the world and don’t try to convert Britain to that sort of place.

  10. What everyone said – we can’t know what Kamm actually genuinely believes.
    He is likely simply to be enforcing what everyone else is _required_ to believe.

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