Death Threats in a Land of Suppressed Speech

This is interesting:

Count Dankula is the chap who has been prosecuted in Scotland for teaching his dog to effect a Nazi salute, as I wrote about here. Now I suspect the “death threats” were nothing of the sort (similar to Cathy Newman’s complaints about receiving “death threats” after her car-crash of an interview with Jordan Peterson), or were not credible. But nowadays someone tweeting “get in the sea, you idiot” will have Plod on television speaking sternly about “death threats” provided the recipient belongs to a protected class and the sender is just some oik. There was a time when the police used to be able to differentiate between credible death threats and some idiot mouthing off, but nowadays you’d be impressed if they could tell a nerve agent from a travel agent.

Now I don’t know why Dankula is raging so much about this – maybe he thinks he’s done enough martyrdom and it’ll help with his sentencing if he’s seen denouncing it? – but he needs to realise it’s out of his hands. If this death threat is real, it won’t be sent out of concern over the fate of Mark Meechan, but of free speech and what its curtailment could mean for life in Britain. It might come as a surprise to Britain’s ruling classes, perhaps even Meechan himself, but there might be people out there willing to fight and possibly die to ensure citizens are not sent to jail for telling jokes.

This is a serious matter, and if the judge didn’t carefully consider the full potential implications of his ruling then he’s remarkably stupid. Those responsible for Meechan’s conviction are the government, police, and judiciary. Traditionally, if anyone were to disagree with how these organisations conduct themselves they could campaign to have them changed, but if they can jail people for saying the wrong things then this is no longer an option. So what are people left with? Well, they could hoist the flag and start slitting throats. But we’re not there yet, not quite anyway.

Like I said, I doubt this death threat is credible but the Sun’s headline ought to have sparked a conversation as to what form political protest will take in a society where someone can be jailed for teaching a dog to salute. It doesn’t seem as though anyone in power has thought about this, and it’s taken the judge quite by surprise. I’m sure he’ll be quite safe, but if Britain continues down this road of arresting and charging people for unapproved opinions, sooner or later the death threats will start becoming real, and later they will stop being mere threats. Nobody wants that, and the solution is for the government and the imbeciles that work for them to stop this madness now, before it’s too late.

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14 thoughts on “Death Threats in a Land of Suppressed Speech

  1. “…nowadays you’d be impressed if they could tell a nerve agent from a travel agent.”

    /applause

    I was listening to the ‘Jeremy Vine’ show on Radio 2 earlier, and it was interesting how few listeners weren’t openly scornful of the latest official version of ‘It was the Russions with the Novichock in the food…no, the car… no, wait, we’ve got it now, the doorknob!’.

  2. it was interesting how few listeners weren’t openly scornful of the latest official version of ‘It was the Russions with the Novichock in the food…no, the car… no, wait, we’ve got it now, the doorknob!’.

    Well… if it wasn’t the Russians, then who was it?

  3. First, nice blog, been lurking for a few weeks, been threatening to post for a few days. It was in trying to work out the authenticity of the refusal of entry letter issued to Nazi Bonnie and Clyde that I stumbled onto it. Good mixture of scepticism and cynicism.

    Secondly, how close to offence are the Sun with that headline? If the bar has been newly set at ‘mocking Nazis is now verboten because it’s not a laughing matter therefore hate’ is their little wordplay bordering on the offensive, perhaps?

    Lastly…. But nowadays someone tweeting “get in the sea, you idiot” will have Plod on television speaking sternly about “death threats” provided the recipient belongs to a protected class and the sender is just some oik. 

    Exactly. I live in a twilight zone of a town. Won’t say where but you could work it out of you tried. There’s a guy here a few streets from me who has made the national press several times for sending malicious messages to establishment figures. He’s now known round here as “Twitter Nonce” which is hilarious but my point is he is autistic, low IQ plus a shitty upbringing. Not saying he’s harmless because he’s not but in reality he’s an idiot sending childish messages, its like heavy breathing down the phone, something a normal person would be embarrassed they’d done. The punchline is the recipient of his malicious communication was chair of some government mental health committee.

    This whole Nazis lurking everywhere is wearing real thin with me. Our local rag are currently whipping the mob into a frenzy over “Nazi knives on sale in our town shocker” but that’s a long and frankly depressing tale I’ll tell another time.

  4. First, nice blog, been lurking for a few weeks, been threatening to post for a few days. It was in trying to work out the authenticity of the refusal of entry letter issued to Nazi Bonnie and Clyde that I stumbled onto it. Good mixture of scepticism and cynicism.

    Welcome! Thanks for reading, and commenting!

  5. But we’re not there yet, not quite anyway.

    As the saying goes, it’s too late to work within the system and too early to just shoot the bastards.

    To be honest, I’m skeptical it will ever get to the point of actual assault of government officials. The West has demonstrated that there’s no indignity it won’t suffer at the hands of its elites.

  6. Death threats? We’re heading for civil war if the establishment continues on down the road it’s currently on. Hopefully some dramatic upheavals at the ballet box will stop it getting that far, but I’m still worried.

  7. We’re heading for civil war if the establishment continues on down the road it’s currently on.

    Exactly. The only questions are when, and if we can change course before then.

  8. I don’t know about not there yet. I suspect a few dead officials in the streets would do wonders to clarify matters. They’ll either fix themselves up to avoid being next or initiate a draconian crackdown that everyone will be able to clearly identify as a fascist police state. This in-between state provides wonderful cover for the government to trample people unhindered.

  9. Just to play Lucifer’s lawyer here, it’s possible that Meechan is a civilized man who thinks that the matter should be addressed by lawful protest, letters to MPs etc. not by trying to kick off a civil war.

  10. Hector: dramatic upheavals at the ballet box
    Is there a particular loge at Covent Garden for this?

  11. Just to play Lucifer’s lawyer here, it’s possible that Meechan is a civilized man who thinks that the matter should be addressed by lawful protest, letters to MPs etc. not by trying to kick off a civil war.

    Quite possibly. But as I said, it’s not really up to him at this point (echoes of Rodney King’s “can’t we all just get along” here) and lawful protests against a government who decides what is and isn’t lawful might not be effective.

  12. I am still amazed about that Scottish sign saying that sectarianism was now considered hate speech that would get you locked up on your post the other day, the jocks lost it with the poms many years ago and now they are absolutely fucking gutless hasbeens, fuck them all, they liked to be ruled anyhow so they should be happy.

    It’s everywhere nowadays mind you, my family and I took an expensive Uber ride last night and I was chatting to the driver and he mentioned that such and such a place was not that good if you weren’t gay. To which I responded “So you have gays in Japan” my boy said that I offended the bald headed driver with that comment.

    The last time I was here in 06 I was heavily criticised by my ExxonMobil colleagues for putting on a Kamikaze headband and screaming “Tora, Tora, Tora” at them, well at least I thought it was funny.

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